In Australia our Rake is **** and our Structure is **** also, 1-3 is $200 Cap with a 10% rake capped at $15. I KNOW RIGHT!?!?

Villain just sat down probably 5 hands prior - Hes a real nut peddler but can get bored and get out of line. History I have with villain is that hes seen me lay down KK in a 5bet pot 400bb Deep - He said "Nice Fold" then showed AA. (probably 2 weeks prior)

Hero is a LAG Reg, Viewed as someone who plays postflop really well.

Action:

Pre-Flop: $175 Effective

2 Limpers EP, Villain limps HJ, Hero OTB KQ raises to $20(regular sizing is $12/$15 but with all the limpers $20 seems reasonable), All 3 limpers call - Villain takes a second (looks reluctant) and calls.

Flop: JJ6 (Pot: $81)
Checks around to Hero who bets out $60, 2 limpers in EP fold and Villain Re-Raises all in for $95 more, pots now ~$296

I guess we just have to go with the two overs and a flush draw. I'm curious to what you guys would put villain on when he limps then pretty much only calls $20 because he sees its value?

Call

I think you have to call here. Sometimes he has the J, but most of the time I think you're going to see pocket pairs, the odd 6 in there, and over cards - most of which you're way ahead of thanks to the flush draw.

With 3 limpers and using the $12-15 + $3/limper rule, shouldn't you be raising to $21-24 pre? Minor point but still.

Your flop cbet on that board into so many players looks FOS though, especially that sizing. Would you really cbet 75% PSB into 3 opponents with say AA on a JJx board when someone could easily have Jx? No. You'd cbet smaller and evaluate if raised. Infact, even with Jx, you'd cbet smaller to get worse to call. Cbet 1/3-1/2 pot. Leaning towards 1/2 pot because of the flush draw.

Because of your cbet looking unbelievable on a paired board, it wouldn't be a surprise for fish to shove wider vs you on that flop. Any 2 pair basically.

AP, snapcall for sure. What are you worried about? We're flipping vs lower pairs and have decent outs vs Jx.

Easy call. Never betting this flop is my plan isn't to call.

I'm not sure, but my guess would be only a super nit strategy would be able to beat these conditions (TT+/AK, maybe loosening up to overlimp some speculative hands in CO/Button). Kinda doubt a lag style could beat this game as with small stacks your FE is limited and you'll simply get destroyed by the rake dicking around in small pots. I could be wrong.

Is there a rake taken if no flop? If not, then taking down pots preflop can't be overrated, especially with K high. I'd probably raise way more after 3 limpers, as taking down 5.5bbs uncontested/unraked with K high is a great result. I also don't think overlimping is horrible. Not really in love with our result, apart from everyone else got in far too much of their stack to profitably play speculative hands.

SPR is lol 2. I just jam the flop. Obviously a J is never going to fold, but either are we, so that's a wash. So now it's a matter of whether we can flex our FE and get small pairs to fold (and Ax will always fold), and if they don't, oh well, we're a slight fave against them anyways.

I haven't bothered to do the exact math, but I doubt there is any way we can fold as played.

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[ ] facing a re-raise
[x] getting direct odds to call shove even if Villain shows us Jx
[ ] threadworthy

+1

You kind of have to go by the general standard opinions and call because you committed yourself with 50% of effective in the middle. I don't like that and I don't do this kind of plays in my game. It's not a good thing to draw on paired boards. Your two overs may not be good to win if villain got a single Jack for trips. You are 1:4 dog right now and have to call all-in for even money. Who wants to call even money when 1:4 dog?
You shouldn't feel obligated to c-bet the flop and get committed on a paired boards. When the turn card comes down and if you miss you not having anymore 9 outs to flush and if the kicker to his Jack is NOT a but gets paired by his brother, you got even less out plus a horrific disaster. Are you aware of all of this? - Right? .., you know .. Not a good situation to make money when you have to draw in NL to come out alive.

That's my verdict

This game is probably unbeatable due to the rake/structure.

OMG, I forgot about your rake. With 10% or $15 rake capped ...,...., fuggetaboutit !.., man.. wtf?. ...,Plus $1 dealer's tip per each pot plus $1 a beer, drink, even a bottled water or coffee plus sometime valet parking, all this mess comes down to $30/hour if you win 2 pots and lose one which is normal (you pay the fee on the 2 winning pots .., haha....haha!). That is 10bb/hour. Well, this game is unbeatable because 10bb/hour is a good winrate for a regular pro in a normal Vegas game and for that money we have to play very well and work hard. No good game there..., ., Come to America to the Land of the Free where Poker is Heaven.

hahaha I know right, unreal but no we dont tip dealers ever (they are paid an hourly rate) and we don't have valet parking.

But yeah i agree with your line and train of thought, thanks for the feedback!