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1/3 flat in position interesting runout PAHWM 1/3 flat in position interesting runout PAHWM

05-29-2018 , 07:40 AM
Villain (UTG): late 20s white guy, TAG ($450)
Hero (BTN): late 20s Asian guy, LAG winning image (covers)

Villain opens $12 UTG. MP calls. CO calls. Hero calls on BTN with A2.

Flop: 542 ($47)

Villain bets $25. Folded to hero. Hero calls.

Turn: 2 ($97)

Villain bets $45. Hero ???
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05-29-2018 , 07:54 AM
What a dream of a turncard.

I raise here, and i usually will make it a large sizing in order to make it seem like i can be semibluffing with flushdraw or a combodraw something like that. Sliding out two stacks of reds and make it 200 to go seems sexy. Give villain a chance to level himself with the "why would you raise that much with a set" kind of train of thought.

Vast bulk of villains range that we are trying to get the maximum from is big overpairs, JJ+. In my opinion raising big on this totally brick turn is giving us the best chances of doing so. If we make a small raise here i too often see villain with the big overpair just calling (afraid that he is beat and correctly so), then looking to fold to a shove on any kind of scarecard on the river to save his stack. Our best bet is to look bluffy on the turn- and get him to commit his remaining stack right here.

If youre trying to get value from big overpairs heavy ranges, the faster you can get them to commit their stack the better it is. Just because big overpairs always feel most safe on earlier streets,with the flop being the nut best street to bomb away if youre targeting overpairs. Since you didnt make your hand until the turn this time, we have to deal with the second best street

Last edited by Petrucci; 05-29-2018 at 08:01 AM.
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05-29-2018 , 09:21 AM
I’d go a little less to make it look like you were sizing to jam all rivers ~135

Then jam all rivers ofc, hopefully there’s a 9c or so
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05-29-2018 , 10:01 AM
175
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05-29-2018 , 11:26 AM
I'm ok with preflop. It's for a relatively cheap price and in great relative and absolute position in a multiway pot. It's a dominated Ace but I'm guessing we should be able to get away from it very easily postflop in a multiway pot; we're basically ~nutmining against the field and mostly looking to cooler someone who has looser preflop standards than we do.

I'm assuming we're calling the flop to rep a lotta turn cards on top of the outs we actually have? I'm cool with that closing the action with no one else involved.

Any reads on Villain? Any reads on how he views us? The more bet/foldy he is against a more nitty image us, the cooler I am with just calling and trying to eke out a bluffcatch against him on the river. Although that line does risk a fair amount of scare cards, so I don't hate raising here either (especially if he ain't bet/foldy and we have a more aggro image).

ETA: I don't mind Gil's huge overbet idea, but the only problem is this will setup a play for relatively large $450 stacks. How often do $450 stacks go in during your game, especially against a tight guy when we have a winning image (albeit a laggy one)? Too often most better villains just sigh fold here and take the relatively small $80 loss and move on with their life, imo.

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05-29-2018 , 12:14 PM
I would make a smaller raise hoping to induce spazz but definitely not too large to make him fold all his overpairs. Say $135-$155 total. That will make stax good for a comfy river shove, especially if/when front door hearts miss.
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05-29-2018 , 03:45 PM
$125-150
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05-29-2018 , 03:58 PM
PAHWM should have started pre, or at least on the flop, as 3-bet pre and raise flop are reasonable and interesting.

This hand seems like a decent bluff candidate, although I think calling flop over raising should be preferred since we dominate his Ax bluffing hands and have a BDFD. I like a raise with 33 better.
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05-29-2018 , 04:11 PM
$150 - $175, setting up an easy river jam.
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05-30-2018 , 04:40 AM
Villain (UTG): late 20s white guy, TAG ($450)
Hero (BTN): late 20s Asian guy, LAG winning image (covers)

Villain opens $12 UTG. MP calls. CO calls. Hero calls on BTN with A2.

Flop: 542 ($47)

Villain bets $25. Folded to hero. Hero calls.

Turn: 2 ($97)

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Situation A:

Villain bets $45. Hero calls.

River: Q ($187)

Villain checks. Hero ???

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Situation B:

Villain bets $45. Hero raises to $135. Villain calls.

River: Q ($367)

Villain checks. Hero ???
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05-30-2018 , 06:51 AM
In the scenario where you raise turn he has like 220 left right? Jam river. I doubt he has a flush. He might not have called the raise OTT on a paired board and would probably jam instead of checking when the heart hits.

I'd raise turn, but if you don't, bet like 100 and fold to a x/r.
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05-30-2018 , 08:49 AM
jam turn
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05-30-2018 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisV
In the scenario where you raise turn he has like 220 left right? Jam river. I doubt he has a flush. He might not have called the raise OTT on a paired board and would probably jam instead of checking when the heart hits.

I'd raise turn, but if you don't, bet like 100 and fold to a x/r.
+1
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05-30-2018 , 10:48 AM
145-160
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