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09-28-2019 , 01:57 PM
Loose aggressive 1/3 game. Two players on my right are weak TAG though.

Main villain (MP1) seems to be between loose passive and TAGfish, limps too much oop and seems to not be able to hand read or profile players well. He's talking a lot to ultra weak tight MP2 about hands and saying things like "how does he have that there?" about the sticky LAGs and "it's ok man you just got to play solid hands and it will come" when MP2 misses easy cbets and complains about whiffing.

This is maybe hour 2. My image is TAG and maybe weak tight post because I b/f a few flops right when I sat down and had to top off within 2 orbits.

Pre effective stacks $300:
EP open limps
MP1 limps
MP2 limps
Red JJ I make it $20 in CO
BTN cold calls (at least 90% here)


Flop ($104):
995r
Checks to MP1 who $40.
MP2 folds.
I call and everyone else folds.

Turn ($184):
2r
Check
Hero?

On flop I think he could have a strong 5, a 9, or 66-TT. 9s are a small enough part of his range that I think a call is good, but if I raise only a 9 or 99 will play. Feels classic WA/WB.

Turn... the board is so dry that I'm not sure I get value when ahead even though he checked. Planning on checking back and calling all rivers or betting if checked to again on river blanks.
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09-28-2019 , 02:19 PM
On paired dry boards is the one time I really like to play my range not my hand. Generally I am fairly exploitative in my play otherwise.

Getting 1 more street of value would be my goal. Unless there is some meta game going on.

We are still going to have a lot of AK, AQ and a bunch of suited Broadway cards in our range. How you want to play them would dictate how I would play some of my value hands.

I would definitely want to bluff some turns and also check some turns. Also going to want to bluff some rivers after checking turns.

Betting all my 9x here for sure. So let's mix in some bluffs. J-10ss and q10s seem to be best candidates.
Also need to check some value hands AA seems like best candidate. Don't need to check a lot of value hands as we will improve a portion of our range on river to help defend vs bluffs.

10-KK would be bet for value most likely. Definitely 10''s and J's

So I would bet for value and re-evaluate river.
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09-28-2019 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Loose aggressive 1/3 game. Two players on my right are weak TAG though.

Main villain (MP1) seems to be between loose passive and TAGfish, limps too much oop and seems to not be able to hand read or profile players well. He's talking a lot to ultra weak tight MP2 about hands and saying things like "how does he have that there?" about the sticky LAGs and "it's ok man you just got to play solid hands and it will come" when MP2 misses easy cbets and complains about whiffing.

This is maybe hour 2. My image is TAG and maybe weak tight post because I b/f a few flops right when I sat down and had to top off within 2 orbits.

Pre effective stacks $300:
EP open limps
MP1 limps
MP2 limps
Red JJ I make it $20 in CO
BTN cold calls (at least 90% here)


Flop ($104):
995r
Checks to MP1 who $40.
MP2 folds.
I call and everyone else folds.

Turn ($184):
2r
Check
Hero?

On flop I think he could have a strong 5, a 9, or 66-TT. 9s are a small enough part of his range that I think a call is good, but if I raise only a 9 or 99 will play. Feels classic WA/WB.

Turn... the board is so dry that I'm not sure I get value when ahead even though he checked. Planning on checking back and calling all rivers or betting if checked to again on river blanks.

We should be looking to make it bigger with dynamics (if BTN is flatting 90%, plus our range to raise 2 limps already being tight, equals that we really need to charge the max and maximize our chance to see this flop HU).

I would bet small twice. If he puts in an aggressive action after we do that, we have a fairly easy fold (if he check raises or does the idiot special of check-call turn donk river, he has it).


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09-29-2019 , 05:25 AM
Villain almost certainly doesn't have a higher OP than you have (would have l/rr if he did). Nor would he likely donk bet into 4 people with two overs. While it is possible he has a 9, the higher probablility is that he has a pair lower than 9s. So the question steers towards what is the best way to collect a second bet.

Since he probably has 2 outs, I'd check the turn. He may decide you have AK and bet the river to push you off them on a blank. Or call your "obvious" river bluff. If he x/f to a river bet, he wouldn't have called a turn bet. If he raises you, you can safely fold.
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09-29-2019 , 08:41 AM
The line taken by V leans toward lower pocket pairs. I bet $40 on turn and $40 on river if checked to and I fold if raised.
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09-29-2019 , 12:19 PM
Spoiler:
Hero checks back turn

River: 2 ($184)
Villain $60
Hero snaps
Villain tables A5
Hero drags it in

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09-29-2019 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Villain almost certainly doesn't have a higher OP than you have (would have l/rr if he did). Nor would he likely donk bet into 4 people with two overs. While it is possible he has a 9, the higher probablility is that he has a pair lower than 9s. So the question steers towards what is the best way to collect a second bet.

Since he probably has 2 outs, I'd check the turn. He may decide you have AK and bet the river to push you off them on a blank. Or call your "obvious" river bluff. If he x/f to a river bet, he wouldn't have called a turn bet. If he raises you, you can safely fold.
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