$1/$3 at casino, 8-handed, $230 effective

Villain looks like your typical sh*t reg, about 50 years old, poorly dressed, missing teeth, probably been divorced for 10 years.

V limps $3 in MP, CO limps $3, hero raises to $20 on BTN with A7o (no spade), V calls $20

Flop ($43, HU) is Qs Ts 4d

V checks, Hero bets $30, V calls $30

Turn ($97, HU) is 5c

V checks, Hero checks

River ($97, HU) is 3d

V bets $57, Hero ??? (we have $180 behind)

Do you think we can call this with Ace high? Can we turn our hand into a bluff by raising river?

Hm I'd say fold .. I can see him betting because he may have looked at your check on OTT as a safe bet that you don't have anything. Unless you want to turn your hand into a bluff and raise. But I doubt he folds. Pretty odd bet size, I'd put him on one pair with a decent kicker trying to get value. But again to save money here I'd just fold, at this point you're only in for $50 is Ace high with a med kicker worth more?

How are you viewed on the table? Enough to scare him away then sure go for it.

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Really don't like preflop. Stacks ain't big and we basically just usually end up isoing ourselves against the best hand or end up going multiway thanks to 2 limpers already being interested. Pretty easy fold for me preflop.

No need to cbet so large on the flop, imo. He either has something he thinks is worth continuing with or he doesn't, the size of the bet has no affect on this (so long as the bet is "reasonable", I mean, he's not zeroing in on our bet sizing tells, right?). I'd bet $20 and be done with the hand after that.

It's possible Villain is bluffing the river, and it's also possible he's doing some ******o bet with a mediocre hand that will fold to a shove (even though our shove story makes zero sense). But I typically just fold here.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I do typically fold here as well, that said, is there a possibility he will believe you have 76, if so, then go for it. Toothless regs never believe someone is capable of bluff raising river

Don't really like preflop. The usual strategy of LLSNL players of just assuming raisers have Ax is going to work well for them. I raise big aces for value, obviously, but for my lighter raises I'd rather have other hands and I can just rep the ace and win anyway on Axx. I'd rather limp this hand and possibly make a move in position postflop under the right circumstances.

The rest of the hand is a good example of why I don't want to raise, the strategy "check call any pair or draw on flop" just beats you here.

River I'm folding, I have a stack of better hands in my checkback range. Raise is an interesting suggestion. Pretty villain dependent. I wouldn't try it without some sort of read because you rep very thin, but it could well be +EV.

Pre is fine.

Would just give up flop with no spade, should hit his limp-calling range very well.

AP, I probably call river since we block no spades, all the draws missed. Also, he's only repping Qx or better. It's unlikely he's value betting Tx or turning some random PP into a bluff.

Bluff-raising river is pretty bad. You're not repping anything except 33 that took an aggressive approach pre.

There is only a narrow range of hands you're beating here.

Obviously KJ. If he is on spades, there aren't many combos you aren't behind. If he has a bare nut flush draw and whiffed, he is still ahead of you unless he has A6 (or A7 for a chop). A2s and 67s got there on the river. So that leaves 78s, 89s, KJs, and KJo. Too many bluffs, like 22 and A10, beat you here.

Just fold. Seems like a bad spot to bluff-catch. You very well might get it through if you jam, but you aren't credibly repping anything, and if I were villain I'd be calling you down pretty light here.

Pre is good.

I'd check back flop. It's OK to give up on unfavorable boards.

Hate pre, hate flop, AP fold river.

Kinda surprised at so much hate for the flop (although I'm not a fan of the sizing). I thought the whole point of preflop (which I fold) was to get this HU in position with initiative against a poor player with a junk hand and then simply take it down with a cbet, no? Just cuz there are a couple of high cards on board doesn't mean this loose idiot has hit any of them, he could probably literally have ATC, most of which can't continue to a cbet (even if we are ahead on the flop, we're pretty cool with ending the hand now).

GfinewithflopG

I would limp this preflop. Get to under rep our hand a bit. Def not folding pre.

Otf i could go either way but might lean towards checking. It would be nice to have A of spades, both because we block flush draws that call flop bets, and obv we can backdoor flush. We also dont block straight draws either.
We have decent equity in position against these draws, but we dont do well because they can hit their draw, or bluff profitably.

Fold pre. Flop is one of the worst textures for you to cbet vs his range

Really? A7o is a trash hand. What exactly are we "under repping"? Fold pre and play the next hand.

If the blinds rarely raise preflop, limping is totally profitable cause ppl suck at poker. So if you dont suck, you can def turn a profit. If this was 5/10 or even 2/5 im on board with fold. I realize its not theoretically good poker but thats fine

Meh, I doubt A7o is profitable multiway at most tables (even with position). If it is, it's extremely borderline, so hardly a slam dunk.

Gfoldingthisisfine,imoG

Raising > folding >>>>>>>>>>> limping behind

A bit exaggerated, but yes.

on the river as played i think

all in >> calling or folding

i just dont think he has a strong hand and all in will be more profitable than either calling or folding.

I like a shove if you have reason to believe hes folding QJ and KQ, usually regs arent folding those hands to me AP, but I usually have a **** image.

Flop definitely can be smaller like $18-22

If limping is unprofitable (i dont think it is, vs the right players), I would lose a tiny fraction of $3. Like $0.25 or something stupid. Pretty insignificant difference from folding so meh. If its close, give action

What are we looking to flop with A7o in a multiway limped pot, and how often do we flop that? Table would have to be pretty special, imo.

GmehG

We flop an ace ~17% of the time and flop top pair 7s ~4%, so that's over 20% of good flops. Then there's flopping mid pair 7s, single-suited flops where we draw to the nuts, etc.

Limped pots are usually weakly contested so there are also opportunities to steal the pot. The joys of position, basically.

It's certainly not slam dunk profitable but I take the attitude that if I can play the hand breakeven most of the time, then occasionally people will find a way to gift me a big pot.

^ Dont forget rake is killer at the lowest stakes.

Results?

+1

I'm beginning to think that if you're in a pot that hasn't outrun the maximum rake (in my room this would now have to be a $70+ pot), it might not be worth the effort.

GcluelessrakenoobG