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1/3 don't go broke in limp pot? 1/3 don't go broke in limp pot?

02-06-2017 , 01:07 AM
Hero: late 20s male. Been at the table for 45 min. Limped one hand, 3bet a 10 open UTG (small for table) and 1 caller on the btn to 42 and got folds. Stack $310

Villain 1: 30s white male. Obvious mark at the table. New player or new live player, his hands shake when he bets and his bet sizing is all over the place. He's made weird plays, calls a 10 raise IP along with 2 others. JT7dd flop all check to him he bets 35 into 40 one guy calls and rest fold. Turn is blank, guy donks 25, and guy folds. Another time he bet out 25 on a 15 flop, was raised to 75, and called off 50 more AI with A2 no draw on a K32 board. He's weird loose aggro and has already rebought 200 more to be top stacked. Stack $300

Villain 2: Old Chinese man. Haven't seen him play too many hands beyond limp with AJ, flop the nuts, check jam his 80 stack when someone bet 25 into 30ish. He's limped a few hands but folded on flop or to a raise. Stack $135

Bit of an action table because of Villain 1.

On to the hand

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, 2 MP player limp, folds to hero in HJ who limps with K9, Villain 2 calls on BTN, Villain 1 completes in small blind, BB checks his option.

Flop: K93 (pot=~$24)

Checks all the way to hero who bets 20, Villain 2 calls, Villain 1 check/raises to 50, folds back to hero...

This is the first time I've seen him checkraise. I could see him making this play with any combo of 2 pair, being in the SB, the 4 set combos, and maybe Axdd or Kxdd. Hard to say why he didn't lead out, he had donked hands earlier when I caught a piece.
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02-06-2017 , 01:21 AM
Not calling with FDs and gutters here. We've seen him overvalue hands. I'm fine with going between $175 - jam here. We're only behind 7 combos of sets.
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02-06-2017 , 01:30 AM
I'm getting it in pretty happily here, as described. Re-raise the flop. Villain's range is much wider than sets (as described), so he's going to show up with all sorts of Kx weirdness.
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02-06-2017 , 01:07 PM
Preflop might be a smidge loose, but overall we're trying to get into pots for cheap with morons, so I can't hate. I'd probably overlimp too especially with V1 in the blinds.

In general, I agree with the don't-go-broke-in-limped-pots rule. But there are exceptions, and I think this is one of them. This guy seems new to poker, and people new to poker just way overvalue hands. Heck, he can easily have JJ here (POCKET JACKS SUCKER!) and go broke overvalueing them. Could also easily have more respectable hands like AA/AK/KQ/etc.

I would probably make it $150 to setup a turn shove.

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02-06-2017 , 01:42 PM
Pre is fine as long as hero is aware of the major RIO dangers.

Re-raise this villain. He never has a c/r fold range. You beat a lot of his value hands. This board might get scary and he can find a fold. Shovel money in now. Bad luck if you run into a set here. He has a ton of worse hands.
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02-06-2017 , 01:43 PM
Good spot, I'd just shove against this guy.
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02-08-2017 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nice_Guy_Eddie
Re-raise this villain. He never has a c/r fold range. You beat a lot of his value hands. This board might get scary and he can find a fold. Shovel money in now. Bad luck if you run into a set here. He has a ton of worse hands.
This was my exact line of thinking.

Thanks for all the responses. I thought this was a spot I'd rather shovel in the money before a scare card comes despite a limped pot.

Results:
Spoiler:
Hero raises to 135, V2 went AI, V1 tanked a bit and went AI, Hero called. V2 had KJ and V1 33. Sick to run in to the very top of his range but that's poker.
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02-08-2017 , 01:34 AM
Yeah that kinda sucks, but never really feeling bad about it.
Top 2 on a fairly good board would be raising here fairly often to get value from worst Kx,flush draws against these 2 players.
Asian guy is never folding his hand and v2 could be over valuing his hand strength so happy to stack off.
Yeah he had a set but could show up with KQ just as often

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