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Originally Posted by thin_slicing
I disagree with everyone advocating against bluffing here just because it's low stakes.
With the exception of calling stations that have no clue (Maybe 2% of player pool) even the bad players know that middle pair hands will no be good sometimes. They may still call down if they "put you on AK lol".
Everyone has different goals in poker. My goal is to try to see how good I can become. The only way to achieve that is by getting out of your comfort zone and going for it in spots where you usually don't.
I would size up my flop bet to about 50-55% pot since I will be doing this with my over pairs as well.
If I was in this hand I would probably not give up and go for a 3 barrel. But I would be sizing it up a little bit. I don't remember the stack sizes.
Based on how you described the V I think the best play in the long term would be to give up though in this spot.
I had a hand last week where I went for a 3 barrel against an opponent I shouldn't of and he showed up with pocket 4's to beat me lol. In my head I knew I shouldn't go for it but I went for it anyway.
I will make it clear that my opinions regarding this hand/topic is based on a bigger picture over time, and spesifically aimed at OP with the many HH ive seen from him both on this forum,but also in his pokergoals and challenges thread.
I am not buying the trying to see how good of a player i can become argument. Like, i agree with the statement in a vacuum and that such probably is a goal for many players quite naturally. Its egodriven though,because what youre saying doesent mean you should shoot small birds with cannons. In my definition of "becoming the best player i can be", is the meaning to put my pride/ego away and execute what i truly believe is the best medicine to win at a certain stake or a certain table. At 95 percent of 1/3 tables that medicine is using fundamentals like appropriate preflop hand selection and position,good hand reading/accurate ranging based on paying attention, execute supreme discipline and patience-then valuebetting relentlessly when i have a decent hand. Print money. I always get paid on my good hands, no matter how nitty some will claim that my image is at any given game.Now,this doesent mean that i never bluff, or that i never "mix up" my lines, its just to get the focus calibrated.
You are literally describing why fancy play syndrome is so common at lower stakes. Many players have this unexplainable urge or misconception that they have to do something more than the "boring basic ABC" (wich have gotten unfair negative connotation the way i see it). I dont know where that need comes from, but what i know is that it doesent come from an objective knowledge point of view that says "i need to be running big multistreet bluffs in order to crush 1/3 games". It more often comes from an entitlement tilt point of view with something like "i am so awesome compared to my opponents, and so much better than them so i need to show off all the tools i have in my backpack".