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07-01-2018 , 04:35 PM
Hero 200 Villian 350

Hero AQ
EP Raises to 6 Villian calls MP calls LP Hero call LP calls
Flop 7Q8
Checks to hero, hero bets 10 folds around villian raises to 36 Hero calls
Turn A Villian Bets 65, Hero Jams all in

Did I play it correctly? I know I wasn't going anywhere with top two pair anyway.
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07-01-2018 , 04:46 PM
3 bet pf to 30 if you want to play this hand i think to get HU or win dead money. readless maybe folding pre is best given EP raise, i doubt you want to play this hand 6 ways in a raised pot, youre gonna be second-best a lot
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07-01-2018 , 06:27 PM
Threebet pre to get the dead money. If you get 4bet you didn't really want to be in the pot anyway.

Assuming no reads on villain, just fold the flop. People don't check and then suddenly launch a checkraise bluff against someone who has bet into 4 players. If he just had top pair or T9 or something he'd bet first time. This line is nothing but sets in the hands of most LLSNL players.

As played, OTT, I mean I'd fold again because his flop line is just sets, but assuming we're taking the position that he can have other hands, just call. Although you're not folding top two, there's no advantage to shoving. If he has Q8 or something, you can get the money in OTR, there's no need to do it now. You want to flat to let him keep betting in case there are bluffs in his range.
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07-01-2018 , 06:42 PM
Just out of curiosity, what casino is this? I'm very surprised to see a minraise, especially from EP. At most casinos I've played in an EP raise is to $15 at a 1/3 table.

Was UTG the only villain at the table who raised so small?
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07-01-2018 , 07:19 PM
I would 3 bet pre but I'd guess the result of the hand would be the same, yes you're good to just get it in here, and folding to the flop c/r is not something I'd advise.
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07-01-2018 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Calldown88
I would 3 bet pre but I'd guess the result of the hand would be the same, yes you're good to just get it in here, and folding to the flop c/r is not something I'd advise.
What are you putting V on?
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07-01-2018 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Threebet pre to get the dead money. If you get 4bet you didn't really want to be in the pot anyway.

Assuming no reads on villain, just fold the flop. People don't check and then suddenly launch a checkraise bluff against someone who has bet into 4 players. If he just had top pair or T9 or something he'd bet first time. This line is nothing but sets in the hands of most LLSNL players.

As played, OTT, I mean I'd fold again because his flop line is just sets, but assuming we're taking the position that he can have other hands, just call. Although you're not folding top two, there's no advantage to shoving. If he has Q8 or something, you can get the money in OTR, there's no need to do it now. You want to flat to let him keep betting in case there are bluffs in his range.
Yes it would be easy to fold OTT if I didn't hit that A for top two pair. I put him on Q8 or the same hand as me AQ. If I called his $65 bet, I would be left with about 100 and he was going to put me all in anyway on the river.
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07-01-2018 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DalTXColtsFan
Just out of curiosity, what casino is this? I'm very surprised to see a minraise, especially from EP. At most casinos I've played in an EP raise is to $15 at a 1/3 table.

Was UTG the only villain at the table who raised so small?
This was at Maryland Live and that was the only time there was a Min raise. Most of the time it would be 11-19.
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07-01-2018 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Brolaff
Yes it would be easy to fold OTT if I didn't hit that A for top two pair. I put him on Q8 or the same hand as me AQ. If I called his $65 bet, I would be left with about 100 and he was going to put me all in anyway on the river.
Yeah the problem is just that your analysis of the hand is inconsistent. If you think his flop checkraise is always legit, then you clearly need to fold the flop. You can't call a flop checkraise if your best-case scenario is "maybe he has the same hand as me". His turn bet shouldn't change your analysis because both legit hands and bluffs will continue to bet on that card. So either his flop checkraise has no bluffs in it, in which case fold the flop, or it does, in which case you want to flat the turn to allow him to continue to bluff OTR.
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07-03-2018 , 01:35 PM
Anything to make of the minraise in EP? I would probably mostly lean to 3betting preflop, unless this guy can trickily open huge hands very small. With this stack size, I might just go like $60ish to setup a PSB shove on the flop; taking down 7.5bbs is also a good result.

Next time post pot sizes / number of players / reads, you'll get better responses.

Looks like we just bet $10 into $30 which is kinda small and might get played back but maybe not. Unless being played back at, a flop check/raise can easily be nuttish, so I might just fold given the way we've played the hand (i.e. not committing preflop).

Again, stack sizes / pot sizes would be nice on the turn. Looks like pot is about $95 and we have $165 left. Board is a little more drawier and we've pulled ahead of some hands. Think we're committed at this point, so I also jam having gotten to this point.

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