Thoughts on this?
MP1 and MP2 have $180
Hero has $300
CO has $500

MP1 and MP2 are middle aged rec fish. CO is a old super nit.
Hero has been card dead for 3 hours and has barely played a hand but no one cares except maybe the nit.
Good sizing?


4 limpers, Hero raises KT on button to $20 MP1 and MP2 and CO call

Flop
Q97 (pot $84)
everyone checks, Hero checks

Turn
5
everyone checks, Hero bets $50

If you haven't played a hand for three hours, just c-bet like normal. At least I would, because I don't think you'd check if you actually hit this board or could beat it -- it's a little draw-heavy.

I don't mind the bet on the turn, though, because they checked two streets and can't have much. Then, again, they can't put you on much, either.

Looks fine - keep in mind you're going to have to fire big OTR if you get called.

I would have just overlimped. This hand plays pretty decent multiway and we're fine getting into a zillion way limped pot for cheap and just trying to ~nutmine with it having position on the field. If I am going to raise, I'm looking to narrow the field preferably to HU where I can simply cbet and take it on the flop; $20 after 4 limpers isn't remotely large enough to do this at my table, and I see it isn't at yours either.

I'm pretty much done with the hand postflop after getting 3 callers and this board. I also check the flop.

Even though you'd expect someone with a hand to bet their hand on the turn, at the same time our hand makes no sense (unless people are putting us on JJ/TT). I think we get looked up too often here, and will often have to barrel again on the river (which will be a shove against the shorter stacks of $110 into $180, is this going to work?).

ETA: You also bring up a really good point, in that you haven't played a hand in 3 hours and yet you think "no one cares". You're right, the bad players don't care. They'll limp, see your raise, and then say "wow, you haven't played a hand in 3 hours! I call." And when they make their pair on the flop and check to you and you bet they'll say "wow, I sure hope you don't have AA. I call." Our FE, even with a great card dead tight image, is often very overestimated at these tables, imo.

GmrpassiveG

I'm fine either overlimping or raising pre here, depending on V's postflop tendencies.

As played, I like checking the flop through and also agree with firing on the turn. My river action depends on who calls and what the river card brings.

Well played, IMO.

I'm always raising K10 OTB when a couple of recreational fish and a nit limp it to me (and all other times basically).

The ck otf was correct since the flop hits a lot of their limp/calling range and the delayed cbet was fine since nobody showed an interest after the initial raiser checked. I would probably have one and done it for about 65.

Would you check this flop if you had AQ? Obviously this is going to be a little read dependent and any physical tells I picked up from the players that checked, but I am inclined to one-and-done c-bet/fold this to $65. We've got an over and a gutter. This is our best chance to take the pot down and our line makes no sense to delay c-bet 4-way if we actually have a hand. Delay c-betting should be HU on non-draw heavy boards.

Grunch.

Pre: raising is fine. We have a hand that plays well with initiative IP if we narrow the field, and we have a hand that plays well multiway if we don't. I'm fine with your raise size as well.

Flop: this is a good spot to check back. A) too many players to bluff, B) Sopping wet board, so we get called a lot, but we don't have the hand strength to barrel, and C) we have a gutshot to the nuts that gives hands like JQ/J9 two pair, so we really don't want to get check raised off our hand (although this may be a non-issue; the opponents you described probably only check-raise with sets).

Turn: I don't like it. It only makes sense if we have 55. We will get looked up for two streets by Qs and yet it'll take two bets to get flush/straight draws off their hands, plus those draws can improve on so many different cards. Too dicey. I'd check back another time for the gutshot.

The only card I would delay cbet on is an A when opponents seem uninterested. And I would bet a K here for value from draws.

Where I play, the rec fish will be calling the turn bet with any pair, FD, SD, or better. You just hate life if a fish calls and you don't hit the river, as your K high is rarely good and you need to fire off a big bet and hope fish don't do fish things to win.

I'm checking down this hand as long as I'm drawing vs so many opponents.

Not loving it. These idiots are calling with any pair, flush draws, OESD's, maybe even KJ. If we check back at showdown we are probably losing. If you are planning on barrelling the river to fold these weak hands...well you are a braver man than I. Against rec fish I think it is too expensive. They hero call you with middle pair in these kinds of spots.

I think limping in pre is fine and raising is fine ( although a larger bet would have worked better maybe around 26). to many players in hand to cbet and such a wet board it's likely you'll get called in at least one spot. I'd probably check back turn as well but since you were check to twice they have showed a lot of weakness