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1/3 deepstack, double barrel turn and river in 3bet pot? 1/3 deepstack, double barrel turn and river in 3bet pot?

02-03-2015 , 04:32 PM
Hero: Young Asian male. Solid tight-aggressive player. Had been cleaning house and running the table for most of the night so had a very strong image. Been fairly active since table is weak-passive and shorthanded, but has only really shown down strong hands. Did get caught on a big river bluff on one hand and value-owned myself on another, but image is still probably pretty strong.

Villain: Middle-aged white male. Mostly tight-aggressive player. Does tend to see too many flops and is a little too sticky postflop, but overall has some level of competence. Otherwise fairly predictable. Not much history playing with hero, but since villain usually deals this game, has watched hero play for many hours and has respect for hero.

BB is ****** Asian whale who plays very face-up, and button is weak-passive fit-or fold player.

$1/3 NL $500 max home game (shorthanded)

SB Villain ($500)
BB
UTG
MP Hero ($1000)
Button

Hero is dealt K7

UTG folds, Hero looks back and sees button getting ready to fold so Hero raises to $10 to isolate Asian whale in BB, button calls (unexpectedly), SB Villain calls, Asian whale in BB raises to $25 total with $400 behind, Hero calls, button and SB call.

Flop ($100): J64

Checks through.

Turn ($100): 2

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $60, only SB Villain tank-calls.

River ($220): 6

SB checks. Should Hero fire again?
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02-03-2015 , 05:12 PM
Was $10 getting it heads up pre? Based on your description of table dynamics it doesn't sound like it. $12-15 pre makes more sense but whatever.

I have no problem raise/calling a small 3bet in good position here if you have a strong reads and grasp of the table dynamics. That said, I do question the hand selection as I'd rather have something like 9Ts in this spot than K7s.

I question your Hero image description. If you have been raising a lot and caught bluffing, usually you will get called down lighter even if you are winning. Therefore I think it will be very difficult to steal 3-handed on the turn.

As played, I pretty much think you have to fire again. I don't know how V doesn't bet a Jack on the turn unless he is specifically trying to trap you (which is very possible, do u have reads?) If not, I'd probably bet big like $150 to fold out any stubborn pocket pair. That's assuming V is kinda weak-tight and won't Hero call you. Dealers aren't exactly rich or have money to blow, so I'm guessing he might give up without top pair if you make a big bet here.
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02-03-2015 , 05:13 PM
Board and runout are dry as can be, and you aren't repping much after you check flop.

Villain is competent, sticky, and knows you are capable of bluffing river.

Read dependent, but I suspect villain is looking you up with most of his 3 bet calling range pre.

I'd let it go unless you can construct a solid range on him that you can fold out.
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02-03-2015 , 05:19 PM
I prefer a bigger raise pre and you can't really rep much here. Depends how light villain calls in these spots. If I'm villain I personally am not folding many pairs here.
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02-03-2015 , 05:38 PM
Pre is neither tight nor particularly aggressive. Which is fine.

I don't think there's a lot of money to be had bluffing the river in weak low limit games. But you can lose a lot of money doing that. These guys call the river too much anyways so you're better off focusing on more opportunities to bet for value, even thin value otr.

Here your only hope is that villain likewise missed his flush draw, in which case your K high might be plenty.
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02-03-2015 , 05:41 PM
Very read-dependent, but I'd check behind here. You're repping nothing, and his call on the turn was either a draw or an obstinate pair. You have showdown value against most of his draws, and I think the obstinate pairs will lean toward a tank-call.

It's going to be sick if you check behind and he shows Axss or 4xss, but those are nearly the only hands in his range that beat you and will fold to a river bet.
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02-03-2015 , 08:15 PM
Preflop:

I like the ISO raise against the BB, but if he is so bad and usually calling, why not raise more so that we can steal more of his money? Would you rather raise to $10 preflop 3 times and have him fold to your cbet, or have the same thing happen while raising $15 pre?

Also raising more tends to get the pot heads up, which we certainly want with our hand. I'd raise to $15 or even $18.

When he 3-bets us, this is the sort of hand we should be folding. Yes, I know it's tempting to call since it's so small, but it's really going to be a -EV call I think. He probably has JJ+/AK and he successfully value bet us just now. Personally I hate being value bet more than Being bluffed.

We can call here with AX, or KT, or 66, (trying to flop a monster) but not K7:spade.

Okay, continuing on with the hand:

Flop: As played, against this table, we might want to bet here when its checked to us. If the button calls I'm giving up right away, but if called by the other players we can barrel certain turns. If the BB hesitantly calls us he's pretty much turned his hand faceup as AK/AQ and we can barrel him off it. Note that this would be suicide at most LLSNL tables, but the one you are describing is just unusually nitty.

Turn:

By checking the flop and betting this turn, it looks exactly like we have a flush draw and that is what our opponents will put us on. However, I don't mind betting here because we will often take it down when it's checked to us twice. Looking for an A, K, or to barrel the river for bluff/value. I'm okay with your choice to bet and with your sizing.

River:

One of the worst barrel cards in the deck. Our hand has some SDV against worse flush draws. I like a check back here.
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