Got myself into an interesting hand the other day and wanted to see what the general consensus was on here.

The game is a private 1/3 game with an uncapped buyin and button straddles.

Hero ($700): Late 20s white guy, been playing pretty aggressive majority of the night as the table was playing short handed for a while. haven't shown any bluffs or hands that have gotten out of line.

Villian ($950): late 20s asain guy, generally plays taggish with a lot of post flop aggression. can turn into a semi maniac when tilting and is tilting today.


Hand:

Hero has QhKh on button.

Folds to villain.
Villian opens for $13 in MP.
Hero calls $13.
Blinds fold and two to the flop.

Flop is K 3 4 all spades.
Villain checks, hero bets 20, villain calls.

Turn is diamond 7.
Villain checks, hero bets 55, villain calls.

River is an offsuit Q.
Villain checks, hero bets 85, villain check raises hero all in. $577 to call.


I've seen villain barrel rivers before but never close to this type of bet. A little lost on this hand and would welcome comments on all streets.

Thanks.

I think an overbet on this board is so strong, especially if villain is thinking and knows you're aware that he's tilting and you could have a flush and be slowplaying. With no history of villain running this kind of bluff, I think it's a fold.

If V perceives the same image that you posted of yourself, tilting or not, he would be correct to slowplay a flopped flush or turned straight knowing you will barrel. Others might disagree, but with a super wet board on the turn and with you only having TP2K, I'd check behind and see what villain does on the river. With that line I don't see V shoving first to act on river. If he bets a reasonable amount, I call. If he checks, I consider checking behind again or betting thinly into a less bloated pot.

This really seems like a naked ace of spades type of play. I think I would call. The x/c x/c x/shove plays looks really non-believable to me

Against a tilting aggro maniac, I think it might be better to check the turn behind. I think the cons of allowing a free card for a draw (noting that he's only on a flush draw plus will get there only a small percentage of the time) outweigh the cons of getting blown out of this pot (which this type of opponent is obviously capable of doing). If we check the turn we can bluffcatch a river bet, plus make it a little less likely (???) that he'll shove over a river bet if we're checked to.

As played, I fold, although I'm not sure that's correct against a maniac. Perhaps that is just my aversion to playing 233bb pots with far far less than the nuts. To be honest, this looks an awful lot like QQ + flush draw. But in the end, aggrotard maniac or not, we simply have to give the most respect weighted to big bets, and this is a huge bet.

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Pre flop 30
Flop 30 -> 70
Turn 70 -> 180
River 180 -> 350 + overbet shove to 927 total pot.

927/577 = 1.6 so you are not getting great odds on the call.

Playing OOP always complicates things especially with the wet board.

Instead of the 3/4 pot bet on turn I would suggest putting him to the test and charging him for a 4th spade anywhere from $115-130. A fold from the V would be fine with me here, if you get called I would check/ call a reasonable bet most likely folding to a shove though.

As played vs somewhat tilted V, I hate to say it but I would look him up with the two pair.

It is hard to believe he is value shoving over your river bet, a made flush or set should be getting more money in on flop and turn to set up getting it all in on river bet. It seems like a realistic bluff with AsX.

Looking forward to what other people think.

I would fold river just because they don't show up with worse often enough to call such a huge overbet. If he had QQ+ with a spade why would he not bet the flop or turn? When the PFR check/calls the flop and then gets aggressive on later streets, it's usually a really strong hand.

We might be good here b/c of his unique line. On the other hand, he could have flopped the nuts and was comfy checking all streets figuring you'd bet based on your image. Really sounds like he is "playing the player." I'd fold.

What worse hand are you getting value from OTR, AK? If so, would he check the flop with that?

This is an easy fold, let him pay off his tilt to you in an easier spot. This hand was pretty well played I think, just gotta let the river bet take it down.

Sure sometimes he is gonna show a bluff here to piss you off, but im folding this almost always.

For the guys advocating a fold, does a set change your decision? Or is this simply a monster/air type of situation?

I think it's monster or A of spades

He's completely polarized here so a set is effectively the same as a pair because v isn't betting a set or 2p here, only flushes.

I think I might have checked behind on the turn. Mainly because I'm a pussy, but also because I just don't think there are many combo's of As/K out there to call a bet.

grunch:
I have never ever seen a river raise be anything other than a monster hand. Not ever.

I can see why you want to call, but you save a lot of money in the long run folding to every river raise until someone proves that they're capable of bluff raising. Even I don't do it very often because most of the time they call.

Thanks for all of the comments guys. So here are the results:

I called eventually after tanking for quite a bit and he turned over AsQd. I scooped the nice pot.

Im calling vs tilted semi maniac. Hes aggressive post flop but hes check calling a flopped flush? Nah. Story doesnt add up.