Late in the overnight playing $1-3. I am in the game for $2K and currently sitting on $1.5K. EP in the game covers me and I think came over after the $2-5 game broke. I have never played with him before. The dynamics on the table is that basically three games have funneled into 1 with deep stacks where some players have been playing with others for hours and others are unknown. My last $1-3 table was the last one to break.

I am on the button in the hand in question with AK and the other deep player with me opens for $15 from EP. With deep stacks and him opening early I decide to play my hand for a flat not wanting to get into a big pot with another deep stack readless. Both of the blinds call.

Flop ($60) K94 It checks to the PFR who checks as well. On me and I bet $40. The SB and PFR call.

Turn ($180) K The SB ($500 stack) donk bets $60 and the PFR calls. It is now on me and I decide to make it $210. My thought process is that now there are two flush draws and the smaller donk bet looks like someone trying to set their price or he has a K that is not a full house and doesn't want it to check through. The deep stack PFR I am still unsure about, but I don't think I can let this street go at a price of $60. Thoughts on this street and sizing appreciated. They both call the $210 with the PFR commenting "so its only $150 to me?"

River ($810) 3 completing the back door flush. It checks to me.

I am going to leave my action out and solicit opinions for this street first. Please include any discussion on betting what you would do if check raised by the PFR. I would assume any question about a raise from SB is moot since any bet size we make would require a call of a raise from him due to stack size.

In position I think you should be threebetting still. OOP I wouldn't have a problem with being passive.

Bet river, enough to put SB allin. A checkraise by PFR would be super bizarre, but I guess I'm folding to it. Turbofolding if SB is allin and sigh folding if he folded.

I would probably still 3bet this pre.

This river is tricky. I can actually see checking being a reasonable play. There is just so little to get value from at this point. I think if you get raised by the PFR you will have to fold.

You could bet about the size of the SB stack and fold to a raise, or just check it back. This deep, check is probably a better play.

Yeah checking isn't unreasonable, I think betting is a bit better. It's so unlikely we're beaten here. PFR having QJdd or something is about the only way.

It's definitely close, and I'm completely torn. If I am betting, it's definitely betting small (to SB stack as one of the posters said).

PFR is just weird, check calling, then calling a bet and a raise. Not sure what to make of his comment, or what hand to put him on, perhaps AsQs, JsTs, jdTd, qdJd, AdTd or a hecka slow played 99.I feel his one pair hands cbet flop.

SBs turn bet feels more blocking - perhaps diamond or spade draw - than made hand, though I guess it could be a weak king from someone not good at betsizing.

I think given it's the backdoor flush, I'm more likely to bet, but it's really close.

Good problem OP!!!

Pre i am snap 3betting ip, i dont really care if he’s deep with us or if he’s good. Oop it’s meh but im also still 3betting

Flop fine.

Turn raise is good, probably size up a bit more

River ap id check, we’re pretty low in our value hands and this card is less likely to make them call off light we have like 0 bluffs here

You should be 3 betting this pre on the button. This is an ideal spot to build a pot no? I’m prolly 3betting to like 50-55 with one flatting the initial open.

As played I think the river is tough. I think I’m betting like 500-600 on river. Worse k’s will call. I don’t see most people checking a flush in this spot really or a better hand so I feel a river bet is a must. Checking back can work but prolly a little too cautious. I would be slightly worried that both players called your raise on turn though kinda. I just feel a boat or flush will not the river in this type of spot so you have to go for value on the river.

hard to imagine that you are not good here. 99 or QJ or TJ of diamonds are the only hands that beat you.

really solid on your sizing and your flat pre. I would bet super valuey on the river. like 250.

Deep and with no dead money in the pot, and facing an EP raiser, and the fact that a flat can just as easily result in a HU pot, I'm totally cool with flatting preflop.

I'm cool with the flop bet.

I just flat the turn donk because I don't want to play a bigger pot. Yeah, sometimes the donk is a flush draw setting their price. But the flush draws only have 8 or 7 outs so they're going to whiff most of the time. Meanwhile we can let them rep the K when they bust, plus limit the damage when we're actually behind.

I suck at deepstack, but right now the pot is fricken huge (too huge, imo). I think it's a weird spot. The shortstack only has like a 1/3 PSB left, and he probably won't be able to fold Kx (KQ?), so there's an argument for shipping his stack. I'm having trouble putting the big stack on a hand; he doesn't have the nut flush spade draw, so did he just open with a like QJss, flop a flush draw, and then check/call it? How can he have diamonds and call the flop? Is he somehow slowplaying a better monster and not getting in more money on the turn? How comfortable are we about exposing our stack with a bet against the shorty, and then making a massive fold if we get raised?

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Results: I ended up checking back and I think it is too passive. PFR said he had a pocket pair and Donk bettor did not reveal, although from his reaction I think he had a K. In this case I need to remember that I am not against those wizards on LATB who are going to put me in bad spots and I need to value bet here. I can just as easily have 99 as anyone else. Bet SB’s stack and fold to a very unlikely raise from PFR. Who know’s with the size of the pot he may hero call with a hand like QQ. I didn’t even give him the chance.

Was gonna say, great spot for a downbet otr.

I get not wanting to attack an EP open, but at 500 bb deep, we can get away w/ three betting this hand for value. He's not going to want to 4 bet very often at all and we'll get to play IP.

River is close. I think I prefer a check because we are three handed. Your best parlay is that one opponent has QT or something and the other has KJ. If we do bet, it's to bet fold. And if AK is in our betting strategy, we better make sure we're making tiny bets. Like 200-270 range.

Interesting hand, though, I think I want to spend some time analyzing river ranges for it.

You played fine. If you are not comfortable bet / folding there or bet / calling, it is okay to avoid the situation by checking behind. You got 2 streets of value. Risky going for the third street when the flush came.

If you bet and small stack calls, big stack really can only fold or raise. So you didnt give up much value considering the risk.

If you had reads, and are confident in b/f or playing for stacks, go for the river bet. Based on pf you were not. If you were shown the flush on the end after checking behind, would you have even posted the hand???

Others can criticize me for giving up value, but if you would puke when chk raised, chk behind (when draws get there). When you are more comfortable playing big pots go for thinner value.