1/3, 9-handed, $550 effective.

Hero is dealt 2s 2h on BTN

4 limpers
Hero limps BTN
SB (bad LAG) raises $10 SB
5 callers
Hero calls too

Flop ($63, 7ways) is 9h 6h 2s

SB bets $20
2 callers
3 folds
Hero raises to $125
SB calls $125
2 folds

Turn ($345, HU) is 9h 6h 2s 4h

SB checks
Hero ???
(We have $415 behind)

What's our plan here?

$185/call

Grunch

Think I just check it back, then call most rivers, and bet 1/2 - 2/3 pot if checked to. Give the bad LAG a chance to take a stab at the river.
Being wary of big bets on 5, 10 and h rivers.

Bet. His range has a lot of overpaid and 9x.if called re evaluate on river

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You think he calls 125 with 9x? I'd put him on a draw most likely, I bet half pot to deny odds and eval river

*overpairs


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Some truly bizarre ranging in this thread

Given PF action its less likely he iso raised over 5 limpers with an implied odds type of hand like a suited connector on the SB. Bad live players love to complete with these kinds of hands Not at all impossible just less likely than a hand with overcard value likre AT or something

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Completely overthinking it imo. 125 is a big call at my tables and is almost always a "I have a monster and want to trap" or "I have a big hand and want to see another card"

I’d bet around $200 n call if he jams. If he calls great, if he jams our price is too good to fold.

LMAO im in the middle of working trying to read these HHs ive completely been misreading the flop action this whole time. Disregard everything I've said so far

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Every time I hear poker is dying, I read a thread like this and I know its not. Obv check back on the turn. SMH

I also check back turn with intention to call most rivers if bet into or bet if checked to.

By checking turn you get value from his bluffs, his showdown hands you beat that he now thinks are ahead Bc you checked, and limit the damage when he has a flush and you don’t pair the board.

Unless we have a tell that this raising size/flop bet size is likely to be random suited junk and not overpairs, checking bad this turn is just bad.

You think the guy is more likely have a big pp or or some sort of SC type hand when he raises just $10 OOP after 5 limpers?

You think hes more likely to have an overpair or a FD when he bets 1/3 pot into 6 guys on this flop?

What about when he calls a pretty healthy raise?

Now the flush hits and we are still pretty deep. We started the hand almost 200BBs deep. Betting this turn is atrocious.

depends on the villain, but shove may be best.

we're not folding blank rivers if we check back and it's way more likely that Villain has 1 heart than 2.

flop raise much too small. we can get called really wide here.

I'm checking as much to get called on the river as to pot control

I like 190 otf, shove all turns.

The dude is bad and clearly he is. His bet sizing pre and post are awful no matter what he holds. You think this means he doesn’t have big pairs, but I’m not sure that’s true. I’ve seen plenty of bad players size too small with big pairs.

It’s reads based but my default is to try to stack overpairs with a set because bad players play badly.

Yeah Mike I am going with the field on this one. I think a check back here is sub-optimal as V could easily have AA-JJ with one heart here that we need to charge. Sure, he could already be there, but if he is it is likely not with the nut flush so we generally won't be shoved on here. So if we size correctly (say $185-$205), we can accomplish three things: charge overpairs with one heart incorrect odds to draw (and get value from them when they call); give ourselves good IO if we are shoved on to re-draw; and potentially slow V down if a 4th comes on the river where we have now set the price to get to SD.

Only hands we REALLY fear are the higher sets. So i think the combo of factors above make this a bet (although I will agree it isn't a fist pump, so it is somewhat close).

I'm also playing preflop the same way, but this deep hands like 22 have such RIO that it ain't as slam dunk as you think. Hopefully we can use our position to figure out those RIO times.

This is kinda why preflop can be a little dicey. Preflop raise is obviously a juicer raise with a speculative hand, one that likes this flop enough to bet into the world. And on top of that, two players called. Board is pretty drawy, and pot is big, so most people don't slowplay better here, so unless juicer has us crushed, I guess we should be ok raising to attempt to play for stacks. I typically like giving poor 2:1 odds, especially since no one folds a draw on the flop, so I'd go $160 (which will leave us < PSB shove for the turn).

Pretty craptastic turn card as the main draw got there, and the juicer mostly has that or a slowplayed 99/66 (with us really only being ahead of 87 at this point). I check back and evaluate river card / action.

ETA: Really in the MikeStarr camp on this one. With that said, who knows how these lolAustralia games play, but ranging this guy on an overpair at this point is fairly optimistic, imo.

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This for me.

10 bucks from the SB is a pot builder, its small PPs, SC's, S1G's, Axss like way way more than OP's im(pretty limited)e

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