Hi all,

Effective stacks are about 300

h: my imge is good. Playing tight. Showing down winners(unsure if anyone even cares about my image)

Main V: out of town. Sipping on a Long Island. Has only been here for a little bit haven’t seen anything too crazy.

v limps UTG another player limps I raise HJ to 18 with AsQc button calls both limpers call

(72) Flop Ad 8s 4h

v leads for 35 another V folds I call button folds

142 Turn : 3c he bets 75

Thoughts?

Raising the flop. AP, even though the turn changes nothing, I'm just calling because I don't want to scare him off of a weaker A or a bluff that he'd barrel the river with as we can easily shove for value if he checks river.

Call down. People are dumb.

Call and see how he sizes up river.

I always will defer to Amanaplan but I think there are some things to consider here albeit 100BBs deep.

V although drinking hasn't gotten out of line. H has a solid image. V limp/calls a 3 bet pre flop. Then donks into 3 other people on the flop. And then continues on the turn, both 1/2 PSB.

There are virtually no semi-bluffs on this board unless he is doing it with a gutshot and maybe a BDFD. It's about as dry as it can get. H should have all of the strong Ax and yet our V didn't slow down on the turn, which usually means V has TPGK beat.

Limp/call range UTG for V have him holding a lot of weak Ax which flopped 2 pair and all of the sets. Weak/tight but I've only got ~18% of my stack stack in the middle and make an exploitive fold. Top off NH. Until I see him getting out of line I think you are smoked here way too often, especially when playing deeper.

And as I muck I will say "Show me the bluff and I'll drink a Long Island Iced Tea with you."

Easy call. Real decision point is on the river. A lot of tourists will sh** themselves and check the river after being called twice so we can just check back. Probably a bit too thin to bet river if checked to here.

This ^^^

For the record, stacking off readless as a 3 time caller IP with 1p is at least questionable. I'd much prefer to watch this hand go down early in a session than be a participant in it because, free info. Still, because I bet thrice, I can call thrice. It's the worst hand I call too - AJ is a turn fold because at this limit there are oodles of players that limp call AQ, even AK.

call call call gg

This is a spazz bluff, or a horribly played AK. Villain shouldn't be worried about protecting his sets/two pairs so I doubt he would lead into us.

^this.

I’m not calling off from the bottom of my range here 3 times in this scenario.

This was a tough spot. Sometimes when V takes this line I will call flop and very often they don’t fire on the turn.

When he fires on the turn idk if I can call down here

I thought he could have like A4cc which actually
Might not be a bad line to lead here and I actually like it. Iguess he could have A8 as well


I folded turn.

He didn’t make a comment Pre about how “ oh I’m priced in now how could I fold”

It’s just a premature fold. Too often you’re dealing w an inexperienced player just ‘playing his hand’ which is evident when he leads flop. Those types tend not to have a grasp on relative hand strength, and might not understand your flop call includes a hand as strong as AQ. That makes turn betting quite safe for him at least sometimes w hands worse than AQ. This all assumes that he is not a complete clown that has 65 and all aces or who knows what. He may not even bet river, you could have the best of it, you have some equity too at a 25% calling requirement, and... I drop in the 75.

We can definitely consider a flop raise but call is good. Definitely call turn, we are often beating hands he bets for value whether or not his line makes sense to you, doing this with AT makes sense to him.

Probably lots of options preflop.

I'm also just calling the flop.

I would seriously consider folding the turn. We're only going to have about a 1/2 PSB left for the river; we think it's not going in?

ETA: More in the Cowboy camp, although I understand the Amanaplan camp. But it really comes down to: how many inexperienced players are you playing with? They don't really exist for the most part in this day and age (no?), which means this line is very scary and very valuey, imo.

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