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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
We are going to have to agree to disagree I guess. Im basing everything Im saying on actual experience from hands like this one. Not from some theory perspective. If you guys are doing the same thing then we are playing in different universes.
In my universe, this guy is not betting anything much worse than our hand again on the turn anyway so making him fold a weaker hand doesnt help me much. Making him fold a better hand helps a ton.
Look, i described villain with the following leaks:
1) Is a proven buttonclicker,having a huge ego and busy noticing if his hair looks perfect, and likes to bet himself to put money into the pot
2) One of his main leaks is that he plays way to many hands in all sort of ways
Still, you manage to twist this in your head into "this guy is not betting anything much worse again on the turn". Its like you just flat out ignore the information you get in the posts, and just automaticly interpret the experience you have from your own main game back home.
Our goal is not to win the most amount of pots: its about to win the most amount of money. Just one scenario alone in this hand is making me jizz in my pants and think about +EV: a rec villain with a big ego playing too wide of a range and betting too many hands, is donking into me OOP when i flopped huge equity. This is a villain who is capable of betting like middle pair, and buttonclick bet if a J or 9 comes, losing alot more money than he needs to. Or he can fire with an open ender, and then if i bink my flush he can easily try an represent that hand and lose alot more than he needs to= huge moneymakers for me and my big equity in this hand.
Like somebody else said (well put), its not like that equity shrinks up or magically dissapear if i just call, neither does it shrinks up when i play that huge equity out against his weaker donk betting range (infact were doing even better then)- instead of forcing out alot of the weaker hands or potenial bluffs by raising.
I have tried but i really cant understand why i should wish for this villain to fold his weak donkbettingrange on the flop by fastplay my hand. Yes, i know he had 1010 this very hand- but as others have pointed out, its of course important to keep in mind were playing against a whole range, and not get resultoriented/executing bias confirmation.
I also tried without success to grasp why this described villain is a good villain to choose to fastplay this hand against. I would much rather fastplay this hand against an OMC or weak-tight local reg or something, that will never give me more money on later streets by buttonclicking and try to represent "scarecards". Those type of villains that is doing the one and done donklead, i am raising this flop every day of the week. Against those kind of standard weak/tight regs or OMC that never bets without having close to the nuddles, i love a fastplay line to just maximize my fold equity through the roof.