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Old 03-09-2020, 10:27 AM   #1
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[1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Hero ($210) - TAG

V1 ($450) -
Pakistani guy in his mid 40s. Loosey pre-flop. Also loosey post-flop, he will call you down with air, middle pairs, straight/flush draw...etc. Usually you don't see a lot of bluffs in 1/3 but this is the kind of person who will bluff A LOT in tricky spots where no one bets on multiways, on scary rivers...etc.

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OTTOH

UTG limps, V1 on MP limps, CO limps, Hero on BB raises to $25 with JJ , UTG folds, V1 calls, CO calls.

Flop:
795 ($76)

Hero bets $45, V1 tanks a bit and calls, CO snapfolds.

Turn: 4 ($166)

Hero goes all-in, V1 tanks for few mins and calls.

The idea was to go all-in since I know he can literally have any BS: A7, A5, A9, 78, 89, T9, K5,...etc.

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Thoughts?
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:31 AM   #2
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Bet more pre if you're expecting V1 to call, bet more flop for same reason. But you got it in anyway, so....hooray.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:32 AM   #3
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Seems fine to me. You could maybe exploitatively go a bit bigger on the flop and basically commit to shoving nearly any turn against this type of V.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:32 AM   #4
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

This is standard
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:33 AM   #5
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Ya, a bit more pre works too against these types of players. An extra $5 makes no difference to them usually and you have his range crushed.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:49 AM   #6
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Thanks guys. Definetely I agree with the going a bit larger preflop and post-flop.

Since we all almost agree on the action taken, I will post the results.

Results

River: 6

V1 shows 98 and rivers his gutshot straight. Hero loses all his stack.
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:04 AM   #7
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

OP, your last action is part of results, and results bias responses. Please stop including it in your first post, much less V's response to it. Get up to your last decision point and put "Hero: ??" in it's place.

Also, wait at least 24 hours before giving results, not 24 minutes.
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:09 AM   #8
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

Top up to at least 100bbs but definitely more since the game plays bigger.



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Old 03-09-2020, 11:09 AM   #9
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

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OP, your last action is part of results, and results bias responses. Please stop including it in your first post, much less V's response to it. Get up to your last decision point and put "Hero: ??" in it's place.

Also, wait at least 24 hours before giving results, not 24 minutes.
Point noted for next hands. Thank you
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:10 AM   #10
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

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Top up to at least 100bbs but definitely more since the game plays bigger.



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I am more comfortable starting with 50BB than with 100BB
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Old 03-09-2020, 01:03 PM   #11
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

I'm fine with our big preflop raise with our stack to trivially setup postflop commitment if we flop an overpair.

SPR is 2.4 and we've flopped an overpair; we're 100% committed, imo. If one of these two guys called off a lol huge 12% of their stack preflop and outflopped me, they get my stack. I PSB the flop to get the rest in on the turn.

One thing regarding sizing: typically when committed you'll want to aim for a smaller turn sizing that your flop sizing with regards to percentage of the pot. This is because you'll get in more money on the flop when they have so many possibilities / less money on the turn when they have so few possibilities, and plus it's easier to get in less money on later streets when the $$$ actually means something. So if you hadda PSB the flop, that's 100% PSB, which would then leave you a 48% PSB for the turn. You bet a relatively small 59% PSB on the flop and a relatively huge 84% PSB on the turn; that's mostly backwards sizing when you're committed.

But, yeah, as played shove is fine.

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Old 03-09-2020, 01:06 PM   #12
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Re: [1/3] - Another JJ hand thread...

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Top up to at least 100bbs but definitely more since the game plays bigger.
For noobish players (which is seems OP may be) this is really poor advice, imo. He (and probably most players other than experts, tbh) would be a lot better off playing an easier-to-play / easier-to-commit shorter stack.

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