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1/3 AKo utg interesting pf spot 1/3 AKo utg interesting pf spot

11-17-2017 , 01:12 AM
Playing 8 handed here

Hero covers everyone with 200bb

I should have a solid, tag image. Haven't shown down much, haven't gotten out of line at all. But I've hit a bit of a heater and have raised three or four hands in a row with solid hands and showed down a few winners.

Hero looks down at AKo utg and opens to 13. 5 calls (crazy because I'm positionally aware and playing very tight in early position for hours), folds to villain in bb who pops it to $80.

He has about 125bb before the hand. He's a thinking player, he's one of maybe two or three of us with a clue who isn't afraid to raise pf. He also could be slightly tilted as he lost two decent sized hands 15 min ago, back to back hands vs the same villian with sets each time. He was complaining about it for a few hands.

Hero.......???

First caller has about the same as me, the random callers behind us have between 25-100bbs so it would basically commit them if they call the raise.

What say you? Is this a pretty standard play either way? Curious how everyone views it, I'll post the rest of the hand later
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11-17-2017 , 01:55 AM
The correct play would be to ship it.
You must discount AA and KK as you have 1 of each. Villian is most likely to have QQ, AQ, JJ

This is a spot i like to have. you have close to 250BB in the middle, you most likely have the best hand only putting in 100BB
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11-17-2017 , 04:40 AM
There is so much money in the middle and it's such an obvious squeeze spot. Add in some tilt factor and it just cannot be wrong to shove here.

Yes, some of the time you get snapped by KK+, or loose a flip. That's kinda how the game works unfortunately.
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11-17-2017 , 05:47 AM
Yeah, him being a thinking player, plus probably still steaming from the last few hands really makes this a clear shove looking back.

I'm just so used to playing 6+ hour sessions where any 3bet preflop is literally a favorite to be either kings or aces that sometimes it's hard to adjust.
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11-17-2017 , 05:49 AM
I ended up folding, sadly. Everyone else did as well, V in the bb told us he had JJ which would make sense
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11-17-2017 , 08:57 AM
Standard ship.
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11-17-2017 , 12:23 PM
Opening to $13 in EP and getting 5 calls isn't what I would call crazy at my table; it's what I would consider perfectly standard. All your opponents could be perfectly aware you are playing nit tight in EP and are only playing JJ+/AK; why would they possibly fold any speculative hand if they know all they have to do is put in a lol small percentage of their stack to see a flop eleventeen ways? So long as they are pretty sure this is going to go quite multiway and not be 3bet, none of you opponents made nearly the big mistake you might think they are; if anything, we might be the ones making the big mistake (if no one had of 3bet, our preflop result would be horrific). I'd probably limp to reraise at this loose table.

Either a shove or fold spot, imo. If this guy can 3bet a wide range in this spot (which it sounds like he is capable of doing?) and is possibly on tilt, I'd probably lean towards shoving.

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11-17-2017 , 12:43 PM
Yeah by my calculation, you only need 44% equity to break even on a shove so V would have to have a very tight range for you to fold:

$1 (SB) + ($13 x 6) + $80 (V's Raise) + $67 (Your match) + ($295 x 2) = $816 final pot; hero puts in $362 more so $362/$816 = 44.3%

Clearly as a thinking player his range is wider than that so a definite shove here.
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11-17-2017 , 07:30 PM
gg, curious what the over/under is on how many times you’ve written “lol” in a post on 2p2. Given you have 25k posts I’m setting the line at 35k.
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11-17-2017 , 08:19 PM
SHIP IT! Have to in this spot.
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05-14-2018 , 07:15 AM
AKo vs JJ+,AK is 39% equity.

Assuming he has squeezed with worse than JJ+,AK 20% of the time and folds those to the shove, and calls JJ+,AK the other 80% of the time our shove EV is:

EV = 0.2(1+13*6 + 80)
+0.80( 0.39 (1+13*6+80+295) -0.61 (67+295) )
= 0 approx.

So this is marginal.Factor in tilt EV: the times you lose you may now be on tilt yourself.
I would prefer shoving only QQ+ here.
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05-14-2018 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by icedcoffee45
The correct play would be to ship it.
You must discount AA and KK as you have 1 of each. Villian is most likely to have QQ, AQ, JJ

This is a spot i like to have. you have close to 250BB in the middle, you most likely have the best hand only putting in 100BB
+1. Given your description of V, he could be squeezing with a more marginal hand, and if he's a thinking player, he might even laydown JJ/QQ to a shove.
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