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11-02-2017 , 01:49 AM

jordan1352

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 222

9 handed utg raises $10, 2 callers
Hero in sb with ako makes it $50, utg 4 bets to $120 and has $100 more behind. Folds to me

Should i be 3 bet folding if utg will be 4 betting qq+ and maybe ak. Do i want to be calling the original raise and going multi way out of position?

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11-02-2017 , 02:30 AM

QuantumSurfer

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,987

Is this against an unknown? If so, proving a general description could help stereotype this player... AKA old dude w/ walker & cup of Joe = fold. Most other situations this is a stack off. Split Suit has a great video&quiz about this exact topic:

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11-02-2017 , 09:06 AM

TenHighCallDown

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Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 303

3b/shipping AKo against an UTG opener is really bad without reads that they're a whale.

My standard is to flat the original raise, but I know most people here are allergic to playing hands OOP without initiative for anything but setmining. So 3b/f is whatever aside from the slightly large sizing.

(And then we always get our 5 HHs per day of people saying, "Everyone's always (correctly) putting me on AK in 3BP. What do?")

Last edited by TenHighCallDown; 11-02-2017 at 09:14 AM.

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11-02-2017 , 09:22 AM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,336

just let it go. An UTG raise is strong to begin with, and when he 4bets to a value size it's even stronger.

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11-02-2017 , 12:12 PM

TheHammer24

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,698

Your 3B is fine, but a call probably works better. Read dependent, but if UTG raises TT+, ATs+, AQo+, you're not a head of a lot, flipping with a lot, and behind a little.

As played, there's $190, and you're going to be playing for your whole stack here, which is $170 more. Once he 3Bs, I think you can eliminate everything except AK (9), KK (6), AA (6), and QQ (6) from his range. You're way behind that range, so a fold is probably the best.

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11-02-2017 , 06:38 PM

jc315

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Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,049

had a similar spot come up in a $2/5 game but there were 4 callers in between so its a bit different.

3bet is way better than call here especially with the dead money in the pot from the callers in-between.

given that he has < 100bb its really hard to find a fold, but i think an UTG open/4b jam range is extremely narrow in LLSNL.... i would advocate that in general (vs unknowns/TAG/competent players) that 3b/fold is good vs an UTG player in these types of situations... ranges are way too narrow

i would squeeze a little bit bigger, to maybe closer to like $65-70...

Last edited by jc315; 11-02-2017 at 06:46 PM.

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11-02-2017 , 06:44 PM

TenHighCallDown

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Originally Posted by TenHighCallDown

Oh for Pete's sake I'm HH illiterate lately! Didn't think there were callers in between for some reason.

Squeeze is absolutely fine here, as is the size, and it could easily be a ship over the 4b depending on read and dynamics.

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