H(270) Has an aggressive image, only showed 1 hand where H bet top pair on flop/turn and x/c River and was good. Nothing too exciting. Earlier, H was x/r all-in in a 3way pot, H fold. V made a comment to the x/r "If you didn't do that I was going to." H had opened and c-bet two hands at this point (maybe an hour prior to this hand).

V(covers) has lost over half of his stack since H sat down, saw him around 600, now has about 320. Made 2 PFR with no cbets, made a delayed cbet with 99 on JTx7x and checked back river. Seems a little tilted, likley due to losing some of stack.

SB(covers) is playing a super wide range. Opened 42o from early, flopped a straight and stacked a V who flopped 2p. Also min raised Q3s, flopped QQx and got paid as well. On a little heater, but plays super wide.

H opens AK from UTG2 for 20 (standard raise for me from EP when I raise, no need to suggest a smaller size), V calls from BU, SB calls.

F(60): 766
checks around

T(60): 8
x, H 30, V call, fold.

R(120): A
H 50, V all-in for 170ish more. H?

Looks like a flush.

With no reads other than this Villain is relatively snug, this looks like a fold.

We also lose to the unlikely straight, and the unlikely 6, the unlikely 77 and the unlikely 88. But together with the potential flush we can suspect SOMEthing evil this way comes.

Standard bet/fold spot. He's not raising with worse.

On the river, with hero's aggressive image, when you bet only 50 into 120 you're losing value and potentially opening yourself up to a bluff raise. I'm not sure what hand you're trying to represent with that bet size.

Either bet 80 into 120 as you would if you had aces full (and hope that he hero-calls you light with Ax) or check/call.

As played, this looks like a standard fold. It's possible you induced with the smallish bet but I still don't think they bluff often enough in this spot to justify a call.

I’ve found myself being in this spot a few times lately with this pot size and going for a bet/fold with a value hand. Is 80 standard or is the b/f size based on the strength of our hand, furthermore, facing a raise when betting 2/3rd pot makes it so that only better hand raises?


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People are going to have different views on this.

To me a bet of 50 into 120 in this hand looks like one of the following:

- Ax hoping to get paid off by 99+; or
- a tournament player getting used to playing cash games; or
- a bet from OMC who needs to bet small in order to get paid

If you have an aggressive image, I would recommend betting larger with both your value hands and bluffs (and aim to be value-betting more often than you bluff). This exploits a couple of common leaks bu villains at low stakes live:

i) villains find it hard to fold to river bets; and ii) villains hardly ever bluff raise the river when facing a large bet.

Generally, you're betting large for value. But a positive consequence of betting this size is that when they raise you, you can fairly confidently let it go.

What was the outcome?

Given that V seemed to previously imply he wanted to c/r bluff you, I think a c/c may be best on the river. Normally I absolutely love the b/f line on the river, but that little tidbit about his getting annoyed by your aggression makes me want to c/c.

I typically go for limp/reraises with this stack size in EP. We're just outside stack sizes that are easy enough to commit to with TP postflop; in this case, TP would have created an SPR of ~4 (could you fold TP postflop?) while at the same time offering 2 opponents about 15+ IO, so kinda meh (imo).

I'm either/or on the flop. If I have a good image I'd probably bet $20 and see if that takes it down. With our cbetty image, I might just check/fold here.

Our line isn't making too much sense on the turn, which means our required river barrel isn't likely to work either. I probably check/evaluate.

I'm either/or on the river. If we think Villain is on a busted draw, then check/call. If we think he has something that we can get some small value from, then bet small and fold to a raise. If we're betting, I think we have to fold to a raise.

ETA: Regarding the river bet sizing, I would opt for a really small amount here because we're looking to get called by worse and there's just not much chance of Villain having any worse that can call any real bet with the lone exception of Ahx. Everything else is one pair on a 3-to-a-flush-3-to-a-straight-Ace-high board, which is an extremely weak hand that can barely handle calling anything. I guess we don't want to bet too small that induces a bluff (which really only happens against the most aggressive of opponents), but we also have to size it to something that a weak hand is going to manage a call on. I probably even go smaller than $50.

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As played I fold. I, too, like a check/call on the river vs. this guy.

I can see merrits for x/c this spot. But, I'm just not sure what range V bets on this flop since the A hits my range a lot more than his. Maybe some random AhXx combos that he can call turn with.

I actually didn't want to post this hand given how often this spot is a fold when you look at pure comobs (or lack there of) that we're beating. Most of the time we're shown something 77, 6x, or a flush.

I discounted a flush given no raise on the turn, but sure V can just call ip.

I thought V raise was also a "please fold" raise and not a "please call" raise.

H called, V mucked. I think the comment V made earlier, plus his tilt, plus the polarizing raise size made me think some thing could be fishy here.

His bet was either nutted or air-filled. Glad it was the latter.

Hi, I'm just wondering what your standard raise sizes are from each position and how you arrived at those numbers. Thanks!

ep: 20 to open, larger to iso
MP: 17 is open, larger to iso
LP: 15, larger to iso

My game is particularly loose. In the past when I opened to 5x (15) from EP I've gotten 4+ calls w/o second thought. I've been experimenting with larger open/iso'ing sizes and thus far it's working much better for me.

Taylor your sizing to your game and how you think you can navigate post flop. I know I create large/bloated pots if this gets 3way or more, but a lot of time I force regs/rec player to just set mine and they don't show much resistance once they don't hit. I don't mind fish calling, it's better to steal money from them later in the hand.

But, like I said, this is specific towards my game and player pool that at this point know quite well.

+1 to this post again, good food for thought.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense to me. Would probably work at my local 1/3 game too. What if there are straddles, do you double them?