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1/3 AK suited vs check reraise on rainbow board 1/3 AK suited vs check reraise on rainbow board

06-17-2018 , 01:11 AM
Hero ($220)BB. 20s African American female. new to the table played about two hands but never moved passed the flop.

Villian #1 ($400) BTN late 30s Caucasian male. tends to raise his hand once or twice an orbit.

Villian #2 ($700) SB late 30s African American male. Hes a football coach and was talking excessively about his football team to the other guys throughout the game. while he would have conversations, he likes to check reraise triple the original raiser's bet, whether preflop or on the flop. I have seen him done this 3 times while I have been on this table.

Villian #3 ($450) UTG. 60s Caucasian male. Hes a calling station. a real bad one. but if his hand didn't hit anything on the board, he will make a huge bet on the river hoping the other person doesn't call. However, the players caught on to that and will call his bet. He has went to showdown many times ( Id say more than 5 times with K or Q high)

Hero has K A
Hero limps with KA
Villian #3 limps and so does one more person

Villian #1 makes it $11
Villian #2 calls
Hero is thinking of reraising but decides to just call
Villian #3 calls

$47
flop is 5 2 8

Villain #2 checks, Hero makes it $18

Villian #3 folds, Villain #1 calls, Villian #2 reraises it to $60. Hero???


I ranged Villian #2 hand in a 88/99/10 pair range. if he had anything higher,like jj+ he would have done this reraise preflop. I don't think he has a set either because I've seen his action when he flops sets or flushes, and he tends to let the original better continue betting, slow playing the crap out of it.


I feel that I probably shouldn't have bet here on the flop and originally just checked but I'm in this position now so what should hero do?
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06-17-2018 , 01:37 AM
Raise pre.

If you’re going to limp ak then snap limp reraise once btn iso’s.

Otf dont ever donk here with AK 4-way for 33% pot. It’ll never get through.

Ap i fold to the raise.

Otf i would checkcall
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06-17-2018 , 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minatorr
Raise pre.

If you’re going to limp ak then snap limp reraise once btn iso’s.

Otf dont ever donk here with AK 4-way for 33% pot. It’ll never get through.

Ap i fold to the raise.

Otf i would checkcall
yes I realized I misplayed this hand.Lesson Learned
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06-17-2018 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamlana
Hero ($220)BB. 20s African American female. new to the table played about two hands but never moved passed the flop.

Villian #1 ($400) BTN late 30s Caucasian male. tends to raise his hand once or twice an orbit.

Villian #2 ($700) SB late 30s African American male. Hes a football coach and was talking excessively about his football team to the other guys throughout the game. while he would have conversations, he likes to check reraise triple the original raiser's bet, whether preflop or on the flop. I have seen him done this 3 times while I have been on this table.

Villian #3 ($450) UTG. 60s Caucasian male. Hes a calling station. a real bad one. but if his hand didn't hit anything on the board, he will make a huge bet on the river hoping the other person doesn't call. However, the players caught on to that and will call his bet. He has went to showdown many times ( Id say more than 5 times with K or Q high)

Hero has K A
Hero limps with KA
Villian #3 limps and so does one more person

Villian #1 makes it $11
Villian #2 calls
Hero is thinking of reraising but decides to just call
Villian #3 calls

$47
flop is 5 2 8

Villain #2 checks, Hero makes it $18

Villian #3 folds, Villain #1 calls, Villian #2 reraises it to $60. Hero???


I ranged Villian #2 hand in a 88/99/10 pair range. if he had anything higher,like jj+ he would have done this reraise preflop. I don't think he has a set either because I've seen his action when he flops sets or flushes, and he tends to let the original better continue betting, slow playing the crap out of it.


I feel that I probably shouldn't have bet here on the flop and originally just checked but I'm in this position now so what should hero do?
Your hand doesn't connect with this flop whatsoever so why would you bet? It makes no logical sense, but I see it quite often and have even found myself doing it in the past. I believe there is actually something psychological at play...ie you had a big hand preflop and you misplayed it preflop and now you subconsciously want to right that wrong by betting to win this pot.

This reminds me of a hand that happened to me last week. The flop is 764. I lead flop for 1.5x pot with 44 Old man calls me and I immediately think he has a big hand. 2 others call too. Turn is the J. Terrible card, checks around. River is the 8. Another terrible card. I check, old man makes a pot sized bet. Another player calls and we fold. The old man showed 77 for a flopped top set and the player that called showed 95 for a straight.

When the old man had the best hand with top set he just called and let drawing hands into the pot. Then after all the draws hit and he could no longer get value out of his hand he suddenly bet. This makes no logical sense. The only explanation is tilt. And FWIW, the old man ended up getting stacked within the next half hour and was sent packing for the night.
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06-17-2018 , 08:14 PM
I don't mind the EP limp with AKs especially at a passive table with 1 or 2 aggro V's IP. However, when you get that LP raise from a relatively aggressive V, it's time to put in the raise (35-40).

There is so much dead money for you to take down pre that makes this move profitable, but even if you get called its fine b/c you have a monster hand that can dominate him (AQ, KQ, KJs, etc)
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06-17-2018 , 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamlana
Hero ($220)BB. 20s African American female. new to the table played about two hands but never moved passed the flop.

Villian #1 ($400) BTN late 30s Caucasian male. tends to raise his hand once or twice an orbit.

Villian #2 ($700) SB late 30s African American male. Hes a football coach and was talking excessively about his football team to the other guys throughout the game. while he would have conversations, he likes to check reraise triple the original raiser's bet, whether preflop or on the flop. I have seen him done this 3 times while I have been on this table.

Villian #3 ($450) UTG. 60s Caucasian male. Hes a calling station. a real bad one. but if his hand didn't hit anything on the board, he will make a huge bet on the river hoping the other person doesn't call. However, the players caught on to that and will call his bet. He has went to showdown many times ( Id say more than 5 times with K or Q high)

Hero has K1/3 AK suited vs check reraise on rainbow board: A1/3 AK suited vs check reraise on rainbow board:
Hero limps with KA
Villian #3 limps and so does one more person

Villian #1 makes it $11
Villian #2 calls
Hero is thinking of reraising but decides to just call
Villian #3 calls

$47
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Villain #2 checks, Hero makes it $18

Villian #3 folds, Villain #1 calls, Villian #2 reraises it to $60. Hero???


I ranged Villian #2 hand in a 88/99/10 pair range. if he had anything higher,like jj+ he would have done this reraise preflop. I don't think he has a set either because I've seen his action when he flops sets or flushes, and he tends to let the original better continue betting, slow playing the crap out of it.


I feel that I probably shouldn't have bet here on the flop and originally just checked but I'm in this position now so what should hero do?
Every action is wrong IMO.

You limp AKs which is pretty questionable but then you get the chance to limp/reraise a guy with a decently high PFR and you flat OOP? OMG why? Raise FFS.

AP you flop...nothing. BDFD and BDWD with overcards. Just x/f. Why are you donking into three players with Ace high? Fold to the reraise obviously. You think he has a pair already. You'll catch up like 25% if that's all he has. Fold.
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06-18-2018 , 01:15 AM
Results: I folded and so did the other villians. The reraise villain showed pocket 10s to me
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06-18-2018 , 02:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamlana
Results: I folded and so did the other villians. The reraise villain showed pocket 10s to me
And you thought you should have called with less than 30% chance of catching up best case scenario? Not like he's paying you off much if you even spike an A or K.

Folding to the reraise is the best decision you made the whole hand.
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06-18-2018 , 05:45 AM
Auto fold and I don't feel the least bad about it lol
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06-18-2018 , 11:14 AM
Seems like you played this hand backwards and I am not sure why. You limped pre when you likely had the best hand (or at least very good equity), then you didn't back-raise the $11 bet. Then you bet a flop that missed you by about as much as it could have (other than BD spades).

I mean I am all for playing a hand tricksy here and there don't get me wrong, but this goes too far into bizarro world for me.

Others have covered the rest.
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06-18-2018 , 12:50 PM
I like the initial limp but I'm limping to limp/reraise, especially with this relatively shortstack. I'd probably go $70 to setup a PSB shove on the flop (possibly slowplaying A/K high flops).

I have no idea why we are betting the flop. I'm just check/folding.

I have no idea why we are considering anything other than just folding to this flop action.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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06-18-2018 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I like the initial limp but I'm limping to limp/reraise, especially with this relatively shortstack. I'd probably go $70 to setup a PSB shove on the flop (possibly slowplaying A/K high flops).

I have no idea why we are betting the flop. I'm just check/folding.

I have no idea why we are considering anything other than just folding to this flop action.

GcluelessNLnoobG
It's rare that I agree with GG so when we're pretty much on the same page you're probably doing it wrong OP.
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