Hi all,

300 effective

New table

V: MAWG this is the first hand I’ve seen him play in a few minutes
Talking about how he transferred to this table for more action cuz the other table had no action
OTTH: he limps UTG

2 other limps

I raise to 21 with AhKc

He’s the only caller

(49)

flop 10c 5c 3s

We check he checks

Turn Kh we bet small to get called by worse.. 15

He calls

(79) River 7d

We bet 30 he makes it 100 total

Thoughts here?

Should we call slightly more often without having the Kc and like the Ks call more often?

Don’t worry about the blockers. Massive sizing mistake ott. Probably calling but you’re gonna see some nonsense a lot bc of your turn blunder.

HU I bet flop, turn way bigger

How big would you go on turn and why?

We really wanted to fold but not a lot made sense to me.

He had K3ss

We have backdoor flush draw, backdoor straight draw on both ends, 2 overs. C-bet flop, then bet for value on a K. And only then I would probably bet/fold river as our line looks much stronger.

As played I think I would still fold but I usually over-fold when playing live poker. Don't think about balancing your calling ranges, you're not playing high stakes pros, think about their tendencies.

Also the line is weird for a bluff - if he's bluffing, why didn't he do it sooner and bet the flop? Cheaper, easier bluff in position. So when he checks and then calls the turn, we know he has SOMETHING - a flush draw, a straight draw or a pair. If he has a flush draw, again, why not bet flop but bluff the river? 46s for a straight draw got there and if he has a pair he would have to turn it into a bluff. So he's likely value betting imo.

I think you got the suit wrong on the 3, but no matter. Well, you size up turn bc the K added equity to a lot of his flop checks and there is a FD there and you turned the best hand (most of the time) and bc the card is a good bluffing card and you can win the pot when you don’t have AK. 15 gets calls perhaps from 5x which is ok when you have AK but not ok when you don’t... and when he has FDs Tx, and J9s and QJ and AQ and AJ and worse Kx... you get the idea.

It’s only a possible call bc you don’t know him and people spazz busted draws, though, more rarely as a raise than had you just ckc riv.

I'm more either/or preflop nowadays. The more difficult the players and the more non-short the stacks (where we can't setup trivial commitment spots) and the more multiway this could easily end up going, the more I'm actually fine with just underrepping my hand and seeing a flop and seeing what happens. Raising is obviously not horrible, but if we can't setup commitment spots it becomes a lot dicier OOP against non-faceup players.

I probably lean to cbetting the flop. We're fine with sometimes taking this down now, worse can continue, etc.

Since board is drawy I probably go more like 1/2 PSB on the turn. FWIW, at this point we probably might as well have our cards face up on the table, which is never a good thing non-short.

River is all about whether we think he'll pay off with worse versus bluff a busted draw. Many draws busted and our turn bet does look pretty weak, so against an action player I'm fine with checking to induce. As played, very few players bluff raise the river, and if this guy does, then this makes preflop much more questionable (i.e. we're simply bloating pots and inviting him to steal them from us).

GcluelessNLnoobG

So scary that you think this way. At first glance, I must have over 100 combos that bet bet from hero's spot.

lol@limping AK in a game that is raked $9. gg you are getting senile.

that is all

*If* we have a question of what to do on the river facing this raise (which OP clearly does since he made the call), then good luck being profitable OOP against this guy if he's capable of stealing a bunch of pots when we can't setup commitment preflop (especially in cases where we whiff which will be a lot).

GcluelessNLnoobG

But we didn't bet the flop. We checked, and bet the turn when the K came, which makes it look like we have AK, which is exactly what we have, which isn't a good thing. If we can show up with a zillion other hands here (that aren't TP+), ok, fine, not as much as an issue.

GcluelessdisguisedhandnoobG

Pre-flop is good. Definitely raising here. Never limping or folding (LOL).

I bet the flop. We are heads up with backdoor flush and two overs and we raised pre. Bet.

Turn is way too small. We want to keep worse in, but not give worse great odds to get better.

I also make the river slightly bigger or check/call if he's aggressive and will take a stab. He probably has 46, but I call. Small bets could have induced.

I'd bet this flop I think and then bet turn decent size, jam river.

We only have a problem because of turn bet sizing and really it's a bet/fold anyway so I don't see the problem.

AK is about the worst hand to overlimp that I can think of, I mean we lose more value by doing it with QQ+ but it's such a crap hand to play in a multiway limped pot where 'hitting' means TPTK.