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Old 11-16-2017, 12:40 PM   #26
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Re: 1/3 Aces on a paired flop

Originally Posted by browni3141 View Post
Did he really get 28:1 if he lost?

When people consider implied odds they often forget to consider that they're not getting it in with 100% equity, especially with a hand like 54o. For example, 54o only had about 60% equity here. It also only has about 60% equity HU against {KK+,AK} on a board of K54.
Ha, I didn't even notice 54 actually ended up losing.

I mean, yeah, 54o's preflop play is poor (I'm not arguing it isn't), and even in cases he flops "well" we can still have non-zero equity. But in the end the point I was trying to make is that I take a slightly more conservative preflop play by offering him even poorer IO by 3betting larger (if he's calling a $35 3bet with 54o, he's calling a $45 3bet too, so make him make an even bigger mistake, imo).

The lesser our 3bet size, the thinner edge we give ourselves in; the bigger our 3bet size, the fatter edge we give ourselves. My whole conservative game revolves around fat edge spots, which usually works just fine against opponents willing to give us these fat edges.

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