Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot 1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot

09-28-2015 , 11:46 AM
This 1/3 game is playing extremely loose with stacks from 550-1500 average open is 15+ more with limpers. Many villains will raise IP OTF when checked to. I've been playing almost 5 hrs. and have racked up when I pick up AA UTG in a button straddled pot. This casino it's only 5 to straddle.

Hero has $600 and every villain in the hand covers.

SB & BB call, Hero raise to 35 get 3 callers (150)

Flop 6 A 9 rainbow.

I think about a CR but decide to lead $70. This may be a mistake as many players will try to steal the pot, but they may still view this as a standard cbet.

Thoughts?
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 12:31 PM
why would you want to c/r? you have the nuts you should be thinking about the best way to get your stack in the pot. A c/r will shut people down.

cbet a little less to around 55, maybe one of the late position guys will see it as weakness and raise, or maybe they will raise with Ax.

I would really hate to check this and risk it getting checked around and if you c/r, they will most likely shut down.

as played 70 is fine. we can't always get max value every time we flop the nuts.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 01:00 PM
Depends entirely on what Vs do postflop. You said they would bet when checked to so I'm inclined to do just that. Against players who will peel flops lightly or even float I would bet.

I wouldn't even c/r here, board is pretty much as dry as it gets and you hold nearly all the aces so nobody is likely to have a hand worth calling a c/r. I'd just call. You could donk the turn.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 01:09 PM
As played seems fine so far...
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 01:52 PM
Cbet 45-65 to keep calling ranges wider. It will be tough to convey weakness with an UTG raise/cbet on Axx, but they still will often be calling to improve vs your AQ/AK type hands. Huge target range of 9x, 6x, OESD and gutters, and some PP that will set mine turn when you keep them wide and these Vs seem willing to play along.

The difference between 50 and 70 as played is pretty significant. While you're looking to build a pot, you want as few folds as possible on the flop ans the slightly smaller pot paired with their weaker range will keep things flexible on most turn cards.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 02:51 PM
I'd much rather be leading here like you did than planning to check raise. C/R would show a huge amount of strength and I just can't imagine a holding anyone would continue with. If you think your opponents would bet if checked to, then do that, but just check call. What possible turn card could you be afraid of with top set?

Bet flop > check/call >>>>>>>> check/raise
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 05:00 PM
I really don't like a c/c here, it's way too passive and it's very likely to get checked around since there's only one ace left, and any better hands are likely getting it in regardless. 87 is also a hand that may check behind that would've called a bet.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
09-28-2015 , 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illmatikk
I really don't like a c/c here, it's way too passive and it's very likely to get checked around since there's only one ace left, and any better hands are likely getting it in regardless. 87 is also a hand that may check behind that would've called a bet.
Based on the table description I think "very likely to get checked around" is a stretch. Checking is weak... but could easily be Hero is doing the old "aw shucks I have JJ-KK and there's an Ace on the flop, shut it down," so many Villains without an Ace may try to steal here. If you check-call the flop then check the turn again, you're still inviting whoever bet the flop to stab again. If it's HU to the turn I would probably check-call again then lead big on the river depending on what falls / if V still bet the turn.

OP, you said you got 3 callers and pot is 150 so I'm assuming the blinds folded? Just confirming. If you're first to act on the flop I probably prefer check-calling to leading, since c-betting into 3 players is risky which makes your weakness believable. If you're 2nd or 3rd I'd probably just fire about 40% like you did and hope someone comes along for the ride.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
10-02-2015 , 09:34 PM
Thanks for the replies. It seems like the consensus was to lead the flop. Everyone folded.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote
10-04-2015 , 07:02 AM
I think you're only getting two streets of value any way you cut it. I would bet but then people think I'm a looney-tunes aggro and they look me up a lot. YMMV. Note, if you check, it's not specifically so someone will stab at the pot. People don't usually bet enough to make that worthwhile. They can bet if they want but the point is to see a turn card and see if it gives them anything to call with, or if nothing else give them a chance to not be afraid of the ace and maybe call with a pp or 9x. So don't fold them out with a c/r unless there's something that tells you they won't fold. Like if they bet half their stack stabbing at the pot or something. The only purpose of a c/r on this flop -- the only purpose -- is to make it nice and easy for villain to get his stack in. (It's so cool to see the little wheels turning in their little fish heads... hey, I only have sixty bucks left, I might as well gii. Good fish! Gooooood fish)

Last edited by AbqDave; 10-04-2015 at 07:09 AM.
1/3 AA UTG Straddle Pot Quote

      
m