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06-23-2015 , 04:10 PM
Playing $1/$3 NL

Hero: $300 (Been there 3-4 minutes)
Villian: $205 (Early 30's female, seemed competent in 2 hands i got to see)

Villian opens UTG to $15, one other caller, and folds around to hero on the button with AA

Hero raises to $40, UTG pauses briefly and calls, original caller folds. (Pot $99)

Flop: Q210

Villian leads out for $30

Hero?
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06-23-2015 , 04:12 PM
I think this is fairly straight forward, just want thoughts on line, and to double check myself
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06-23-2015 , 04:15 PM
I think you can raise to set up a turn shove
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06-23-2015 , 04:31 PM
I'd probably 3bet just slightly larger to $45 (giving poor 8:1 implied odds), but $40 is close enough.

We're committed on the flop, imo (if she's sucked out on us, whatever, nice hand). So now the only question is how to get the rest of our chips in.

If we think this is a donk bet to "see where we're at" and that she might fold to a raise, we could risk flatting. The risk is that there are a bunch of scare cards that could come to kill our action.

With a board this wet, I'd probably lean towards shipping it now. She might think we're on a draw, she might be on a draw, there's a bunch of scare cards, she's unlikely to fold KK now (but could perhaps fold it on a scare card like Jh), etc. If she folds AQ, so be it. If we're coolered, there's nothing we can do.

ETA: Is there really any raise size other than a shove? Even a raise to $75 into a $130 pot is rather lol (offering 4.6:1) and would leave a rather lol $90 to shove into $250 on the turn (and obviously anything bigger than a lol $75 leaves almost literally nothing left for the turn). Only raise size is a shove, imo.

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Last edited by gobbledygeek; 06-23-2015 at 04:37 PM.
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06-23-2015 , 04:32 PM
This is a must raise on a wet flop.

We don't want to let V set a price for a draw, and if V has a hand like AQ here we can get lots of value.

Stack sizes are awkward, after a call we have ~160 in the pot with 130 remaining. I probably just stick it in here.
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06-23-2015 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
I think you can raise to set up a turn shove
Check stack sizes, turn shove is already set up by a flat (130 into 160), but flatting is awful here IMO.
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06-23-2015 , 04:33 PM
grunch: raise

this feels like a blocker bet. stack sizes are awkward so i think i might even just shove here. i can't think of a good size you can raise that would leave any kind of bet on the turn.
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06-23-2015 , 05:08 PM
3b to 80/call or 3b to 80 call/shove all turns
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06-23-2015 , 05:17 PM
Effective SPR is just about 1:1 once she donk leads $30 into $100. I am probably just shoving on the flop and expecting to get called by all kinds of stuff on this board texture.
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06-23-2015 , 07:54 PM
We are not folding.

If she has QQ or TT "oh well" (only things that she might have raised with, surely not 22).

But when she has Q only or a flush draw or a straight draw, she wants to get there cheap, with good pot odds.

Our raise on the flop can prevent her getting the right price.

She has $130 left.

If we were going to get that $130 it probably needs to be in there now.
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06-23-2015 , 08:07 PM
She doesnt have too much, raising to 75-90$ whatever looks pretty strong, probably better to take a few moments and shove. This is a really standard spot, shes got so much in already..never not committing on the flop here.
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06-23-2015 , 11:12 PM
I call flop.

Last thing you want is to blow villain off of hands like QJ, Qx, JJ, Tx, etc.

Call flop, turn is ~130 with ~160 left, get it all in turns.

I think the flop call will commit V with more hands. There isn't likely to be a scare card against worse made hands like say KK since we block aces. Getting it in on the flop probably isn't that bad, but I like calling a little bit better. It's almost irrelevant that villain gets to "draw" because we're going to get all in pretty much no matter what... waiting to see a turn probably won't affect how villain plays with her draws, but it might get her to stack off a bit wider with weaker made hands.
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06-23-2015 , 11:25 PM
pile it in

pot has 160 after we shove and she has 130 left.

if she has Qx and folds, good for her, then we can semi-bluff her later (maybe).

if she has Heart draw, she most likely has something else to go with it, and if she folds, good for us and if she calls, good for us as well (just not as good as a fold).
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06-24-2015 , 08:32 AM
What's with the $40 3bet though?
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06-24-2015 , 11:08 AM
Thanks for all the feedback. Been a little cold lately and just want to check the lines on a few hands.

Hero: Sits for minute and shoves all in.

Villian: Tanks for about a minute, and calls with AJ

Turn of 4has hero drawing dead.
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06-24-2015 , 11:08 AM
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What's with the $40 3bet though?
What size bet do you recommend there?
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06-24-2015 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LSU
Thanks for all the feedback. Been a little cold lately and just want to check the lines on a few hands.

Hero: Sits for minute and shoves all in.

Villian: Tanks for about a minute, and calls with AJ

Turn of 4has hero drawing dead.
FWIW, Villain is clueless, so we should adjust our reads. Raise/calling a 3bet HU OOP with AJs is horrible. And lol at her tanking on the calling the flop shove with an overcard + nutflush draw + nutgutshot draw (i.e. "the nuts") getting > 2:1. And with these stack sizes, her best line on the flop is probably a check/shove (flexing her FE to add to her hand equity).

You played it fine, imo. Willy makes good points for the options of flatting, but I think we should really only consider this if we're sure a donk by her means a weakish TP hand that she's willing to fold to a raise.

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