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1/3 AA on Monotone Flop 1/3 AA on Monotone Flop

01-09-2020 , 10:07 PM
V is TAG 500 eff

V opens UTG 12, mp call, I raise 50 with AcAh, V call

Flop(110) 10s8s5s

V checks, I bet 25, he makes it 75, I call.

Thoughts? I decide on the small bet to keep my range very wide on this flop, I feel like he can have some overpairs + fd that can raise here. We're still pretty deep so I didn't feel too good about just jamming on the flop.

Turn(260) 4c V bets 150, I call.

This definitely feels like the biggest mistake of the hand to me. Would mostly like to hear opinions about this spot.

River(560) Kc V Jams 225, ???
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01-09-2020 , 10:26 PM
bet $75 on the flop instead of $25
as played jam turn
as played call it off
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01-09-2020 , 10:52 PM
Much bigger flop.

As played tough. He could have qq,jj on turn, or naked As, but feel its weighted to made flush. I nit fold turn.
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01-09-2020 , 11:07 PM
I agree with preflop.

I bet flop larger ($60-80), but that’s the last money I’m putting in without improvement. Normal 1/3 players aren’t going to go crazy here without made flushes so I don’t feel bad at all about folding turn after having bet flop.
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01-09-2020 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97
I nit fold turn.
nobody flops a flush HU from UTG. turn is a standard stack off.
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01-10-2020 , 10:09 AM
I disagree @prorailbird. V could easily have any suited Broadway connectors, AJss, AQss, AKss, or easily any of the sets betting for protection. I most likely fold on turn.

Yes V could be taking the line with AsKo and think he is good when the K comes on the river, but I dont think its worth it.
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01-10-2020 , 12:53 PM
I'm not sure what position we're in?

With these stacks, sizing is a little awkward preflop. I typically like giving poor 8:1 IO in 3bet pots to make it unprofitable for setminers, due to the fact we'll mostly always be creating an SPR where it will be almost impossible to get away from our overpair (which may also be a little face up unless we 3bet a lot). So that means I would have to 3bet to about $75. But of course we might not get much action to a bet that size (although we are facing an UTG raiser, so maybe we will). Depending on our position, another option to consider would be flatting, especially if the table is aggro with some dead money in the pot, and hope someone attempts to squeeze. This is risky cuz it could easily just go 5+ ways to the initial raise, although we'll have a somewhat manageable SPR (if all stacks are as deep as ours) with a very well disguised hand. Our raise to $50 is sorta mehish, in that it advertises our hand (unless we're 3betting a lot), creates an SPR 4 pot which will be very difficult to get away from (even in position), and yet offers the opponent IO of 13:1 (which admittedly ain't great but it ain't incredibly poor either if he can force us to stack off every time he hits).

With all this in mind, I kinda don't feel very comfortably committed on this flop in this situation. So I might consider a check behind to help remove stacks from play. This has another benefit of allowing him to overvalue hands that he'll now perhaps start calling down with (that he may of though of giving up on) as well as perhaps start semi-barrelling air. The drawback is giving a free card to the 4-to-a-flush. For me it really boils down to how committed we feel.

Not really a fan of the small bet that re-opens the action and now puts us in the stoopid spot we're in now on the turn/river.

Overall, I think we have to plan for commitment ASAP, both preflop and re-evaluated on the flop, and make decisions based on whether we feel we're committed.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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01-10-2020 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I'm not sure what position we're in?

Depending on our position, another option to consider would be flatting, especially if the table is aggro with some dead money in the pot, and hope someone attempts to squeeze.

GcluelessNLnoobG
I'm a scrub but flatting is not an option IP with AA facing an UTG raise imo.

I honestly overall like the line until the turn call. I think betting small or checking is best on the flop as this is a classic way ahead / way behind situation. I fold turn here, you're going to have plenty of made flushes here, sets, good two pairs, overpairs with a spade to call turn with.

Villain's sizing also seems value heavy, if he had jammed turn I'd be more likely to call. He shouldn't have that many one spade hands to bluff here anyway. I think overpairs with a spade most of the time would just call the flop and preserve their equity, not immediately turn QQs into a bluff.
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