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1/3 AA in the cutoff 1/3 AA in the cutoff

05-26-2018 , 09:27 PM
Hi all,

V: Playing pretty ABC. Have not seen him bluff in the ~2 hours he has been at the table. Not really playing a lot of hands. He seems to have it a lot.

H: Moderately active. Trying to play a lot in position vs the weaker tables. I have the table covered.

OTTH:

Folds to hero in the cutoff with AA and we open to $12. V calls on the button with about a $240 dollar stack. Blinds fold.

($28) J102

We bet $15 ( could probably bet a little bigger here. Maybe long term 20 might be better)

He calls.

($58)

Turn 8

We bet $30

He calls

Again think we should probably size up here

($118) River is the K

What would you guys do here?

We check and he bets $70

We hate it and realize we made some sizing mistakes.
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05-26-2018 , 10:08 PM
I'd have just bet 20, bet 45, bet 100 or thereabouts.
AP call.
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05-26-2018 , 11:53 PM
Size up, yeah. I like the check on the river because it's hard for us to be bluffing when we bet and I think if we check he value bets everything that he'd call if we bet. I'd only bet against a known calling station. We have to call the river because we beat part of his value range (one pair kings) but obviously we're not happy about it.
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05-27-2018 , 12:06 AM
Tough spot. I have a feeling we’re beat here, but without the Ac, I sigh call.
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05-27-2018 , 01:29 AM
I'd bet 20, 50, then check call river. As Chris V said, villain is probably going to bet most of the hands he'd call, and you avoid getting raised when he has KJ, AQ, or maybe KT.

The river being Kd is pretty great since he could definitely called two streets with KQcc or K9cc and the flush not getting there allows him to take a stab at it with busted clubs thinking you're afraid of the K.
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05-27-2018 , 02:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt98
I'd bet 20, 50, then check call river. As Chris V said, villain is probably going to bet most of the hands he'd call, and you avoid getting raised when he has KJ, AQ, or maybe KT.
Getting raised isn't a problem, you just fold. Some rando at LLSNL is never bluffing there. I'm checking on the off chance I can get him to bluff, which is unlikely. Versus a passive villain it might be better to bet in case he checks back KQ or something. It's all pretty marginal, check and bet work out the same 90% of the time.
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05-27-2018 , 04:29 PM
Flop bet 75% wet board, lots of hands that can call us. And our bluffs are flush draws/straight draws so increased size for more fold equity.
Turn bet 75%. Same reasoning.
Riv bet 50%. Don’t want to give free show down to JX, or KX. And KX can call easily for values.




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05-28-2018 , 01:27 PM
If we think we can get action, I'd go $25 to setup a trivial stack off situation postflop. If we think that's way too much in this spot, then I'd probably go way smaller to setup a more manageable SPR. In the end the SPR is 8ish which is kinda meh, imo.

On this drawy board, I'd probably lean to bet/folding against an ABC guy. The only problem is that if he never raises, we're likely going to be in a tough spot by the river.

So I'm cool with our flop/turn (you could perhaps argue for a little more on each street but overall I still think they're ok).

The one thing our smallish bet sizing did do is leave us with $183 left in a $118 pot, so we don't feel committed by the river (a good thing, imo). Against a guy who can bluff I wouldn't hate a check to bluffcatch, but I think against an ABC guy I'd mostly bet/fold small (something like $55 or whatever) to target hands like KQ (which he'll likely check behind).

As played, a lot of his hands have showdown value that he'd check behind, and on a drawy board you'd expect a good hand to be heard of, but there's maybe (???) still enough that warrant a call, although against a non-bluffy guy, meh.

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