1/3 Live 10-Handed game is playing a little bigger.

Effective stack is $300.

Villain is rec player, he hasn't played many hand seems on the tighter side.

2 limps from MP, i'm on the BTN with AA and raise to $25.

1 limper folds, Villain calls.

($57)Flop is Q96 rainbow. Checks to me I bet $25 again, Villain calls.

($107)Turn is a 4. Checks to me I bet $65, Villain calls.

($237)River is a 7. Villain shoves for $185, I tank and fold.

In the moment I thought he wouldn't be doing this with any 1 pair hands and wanted to make sure he got paid. Later on he told me he had KQ but not sure if I believe him.

Thoughts and input would be appreciated. Thanks first post long time lurker.

played a similar hand recently and i kicked myself for not checking the turn given the awkward flop SPR. against a tighter side villain, seems like going for 2 value streets is best, so i guess yeah fold river (c/c flop, c/c turn, ship river is a super strong line).

One of the reasons I now BI / top to a 66bb stack instead of a 100bb stack is that TP hands can be really tricky to play at these stack depths. Like a 50bb stack (setting up a very small SPR to trivially stack off to postflop) or a 200bb stack (where all the SPRs will be large and we have lots of room to play postflop poker) are both fine. But the 100bb stack might be one of the more difficult ones, where a raise will create an SPR where stacks can be played for trivially postflop and yet it's unlikely we'll get in enough preflop to be comfortable in doing so.

Anyways, the weird spot we're in postflop is the SPR is a quite small ~5ish, where just 3 average sized donks will put our stack in. Meanwhile, we gave 12:1 IO preflop, which is okish but not horrendous if we're always going to stack off.

And postflop really illustrates this. The board is somewhat drawy so I'm cool with our smallish bets that still charge draws (you can consider checking back the turn to bluffcatch too). But even with these relatively small bets of just 45% and 60%, we've still left ourselves with just a 75% PSB left for the river, and may consider ourselves committed (since we don't have to be right all that much for a call to be profitable). Still, there's not a crapload of busted draws and most people just don't randomly shove into our obvious looking face-up hand (KQ does this exactly never, FWIW). So I don't mind the fold.

I don't really have any issues with the hand, but more just stating how preflop with these stacks (especially if we had gotten multiple callers) really sets up some very awkward spots.

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Pot is $57 preflop and effective stacks are $275. An SPR of about 5 is kind of an awkward spot, so.......

If you bet the flop and the turn, you need to bet more .....then you wouldn't be in this spot. Bet $45 on the flop and $100 on the turn, then you have an easy call when V shoves the river for $130. Checking the turn is also an option.

It's really hard to determine if you made a bad fold. Against some players, yes it is.....against others, it's a good fold. Most players if they flopped a set would have raised on either the flop or the turn.

^How is this an awkward spot? Clear call on the river. All draws bricked and he's never slowplaying sets/2pairs twice with this SPR.

I don't mind either sizing, but i'd probably size up anyway, particularly on the turn. Qx is just never folding for 80-90.

Call river.

If V has some idiotic hand like Q7 or T8, then he's getting my stack. And size up turn. If this drooler limp called an 8x raise pre, then he's not folding TP for $90.

bet more... How can you open 8x and then bet half pot every street.

40 OTF

110 OTT

If you take this line by the river you have to snap off any bet besides a queen peeling.

Seems a little big pre. Idk how often people limp 3 then call 25 in your games but it doesn’t happen often for me.

It’s good to pot control somewhere. The only thing that you beat that calls you 3 streets is like AQ that somehow limped pre and you double block. I find you can get a lot of non-believing calls OTR if you check back the turn because it looks like a cbet give up line.

Your line makes your hand look like exactly what it is. Villain shoves because he knows he can beat AA. Easy fold OTR.


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