UTG is mid 60s Asian guy with iPad and earphones. Have never seen him before but I haven't played in a while.
In 3 orbits he has not played a hand except when he limped in early position and called a $100 open raise from a BB whale with $300 stacks. strange play.There was no showdown.

Stacks are about $400



2 limpers hero makes it $15 from SB with AA
UTG and one other calls

Pot on flop is $48
Flop is T 9 3
Hero bets $40. UTG calls.

Pot on turn is $128
Turn is T

Hero bets $60 UTG calls

River is 7 pot is $248

Hero checks. UTG bets $215

Pre should be bigger - $25-30.

I prefer checking on this Turn - you should have very few Ts in your range.

As played, I think this is a fold.

10BB after only 2 limpers? The game isn't that fishy, I will just win the blinds 85%+ of the time if I go that big

What about check call turn?

As played fold.

It's fishy enough that the limpers overcalled your raise out of the SB.

Main issues I have are:

-You're OOP
-Players that open limp don't like to fold to small raises
-You now have a narrow range vs. a wider range from the limpers

his river sizing is suspicious but difficult to call this when you have the Ace of clubs

Raise more preflop,
C/B the flop,
Check and call the turn if he bets,
Fold the river if he bets or check behind if he checks,

The way the hand was played, I will fold now OTR

Pre is way to small. At least 25. Even more on limp/call happy tables.
Blocking the NFD i think we have to fold. And even more against such a player.

We HAVE to open bigger given the limps and being in the SB I prob open to at least 25

As played OP against good aggressive players checking is fine since this board absolutely smashes their limping range

The flop bet is too big in my opinion since a QJ or 10x likely won’t fold to any size

Turn we should be checking and reevaluating

River easy fold

Why wouldnt we wanna bet big and get more money in the pot when we are ahead and know that a SD or TP will call any size?

Pre is great. I want calls. Them folding is massive mistake.

Flop is to big. We want calls. We have very strong hand on this board. We want value from wide range. Also nice to keep pot manageable. Have 2 more streets to size up if we get good turn card.

Turn I check/call.

River I am calling. He would likely have raised turn with most 10x. If he didn't. Good for him.

why is that bad for us that qj ands 10s won't fold to any size? we are ahead of qj and 10s.

why does everyone like a turn check call? There is a lot of draws on this board and there is no indication he will bluff them if i check turn

to state the obvious 10 is a really bad turn card for us. people play a lot of 10s, 10j,10q,10k,10a,109,108s maybe.


like if we check turn and he makes it 65 and jams river thats going to be tough for us to call down.

are 60 is almost like a protection bet at this point, telling him we have a big hand be careful son.

which does has some merit to it.


turn and river are really hard to play with this run out.

people at low stakes also play a lot of 78, J8, QJ, KJ random clubs and don't bluff yet call bets with their draws even on scare cards like this

i will also say this about the 15 vs 25 controversy.

1) 18-20 is an option is an option as well

2) this depends on table dynamics, if everyone is making it 20-25 preflop, sure make it 20-25 preflop. but if everyone is making it 12 and you make it 25, in my experience this is going to get significantly more folds. and we have aces we want someone to call.

bigger pre i like around $22.

I like to c/r the flop. lots of our AK likes to check here and we can protect our check range by checking strong overpairs KK/AA, sets, and some strong draws. ^_^

also i expect villains to bet 1 pair hands on this board (for value/protection) so we can get the c/r off often enough

Why are we worried about losing V with a big open?

because we have aces

Play your range not your hand.

My range is loaded with value hands that want calls.

Bro you are playing 1/2. Why would you want to be balanced against guy that just look at the board and then their card. They limped ...

I mean go fully exploitative there will not be a better strategy and you will lose a ton of ev by trying to find how you play your range in this spot
If you even want to be talking

Haha changing your PF raise size based on your holding is so bad I can’t even rn

tough spot, is the $215 a shove or a bet?

Preflop is a little difficult with these stacks because we won't be able to raise an amount that will likely be called and yet enable us to stack off comfortably postflop. Depending on our opponents, there's probably all different sorts of sizing we can consider here (from the very small to the very big to perhaps stuff inbetween like we did).

ETA: The most difficult size SPR to play OOP with overpairs are these middling ~8 +/- SPRs where stacks can go in easily over 3 streets of postflop betting (which we rarely want to do unless our opponents are really horrible). A raise to $15 puts us in that awkward spot. If our opponents are face up non-bluffy non-difficult, we don't mind that as much. Otherwise, we can consider super small (a minnish type raise to create a higher playable SPR which may even get played back at preflop) or a super large one (which sets up a trivial stackoff SPR postflop although obviously risks folding everyone out).

I'd typically bet smaller on the flop. Yeah, it's super drawy. But the problem is that we're OOP and we're likely not feeling committed, so I'd rather err on keeping the pot smaller than building it huge where we'll face difficult later street situations. If we're feeling committed, then I'd lean towards bombing, but I'm never feeling committed in SPR ~8 spots and yet big bets will put stacks in play by the river. We can also consider checking (especially if we're well known with a nit image where a bet may turn our hand face upish which is never good with decent stacks behind).

I might slow down on the turn. Yeah, the draws are still out there. But Tx is now ahead. And we could have been dead on the flop. We can setup a bluff catcher (at least for one street).

It's a gross river spot. One of the draws did get there (Q9) but some busted. Against most I'd lean to a fold but we will be bluffed off the best hand sometimes.

Overall, if we're not feeling committed, we should lean to not continuing to build a huge pot OOP (especially if we're not sure what to do facing huge bets), so consider checking / betting smaller in some spots.

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