1-3 effective 500.
Utg limps, LAG/maniac MP raise to 20. Hero BUT 99sc 3bets to 60. Folds to MP who calls.

Heads up
(127) Flop J74ssc
Check, Hero bets 70, villain calls.
(267) Turn 6c
Villain bets 70, Hero calls.
(407) Riv Ts
Villain bets 100, hero times out and folds.

Really not sure about this hand... it sent me into tilt and I had to quit the game shortly after.
Villain just sat down a few hands ago and has since played maybe 7/8 hands with a raise or reraise. He’s been audible that he doesn’t care about money, I think he’s trying to create a wild image. That being said, I do think he is playing like a maniac, and I plan to 3bet him with a wide value range expecting to get called by worse. This would include AJs+, KQ+, AQo+, 88-AA. Does this range sound good?

I know I will be getting into tricky spots post flop, especially with a hand like 99, maybe that’s a better reason to flat call 99, but it’s seems like I’m way ahead and I want to decrease the SPR if I’m not going to just set mine.

Anyways, the turn is interesting because I think he might figure I have AK AQ KQ (naked over cards) but with his sizing I don’t know if we expects me to fold them... that’s what makes the river interesting.
My logic is, he either has a strong hand like 2pair+, and he wanted me to hit a top pair on the river and get trapped. Or, he has a bluff on the turn, something that doesn’t beat weak SDV and now he’s continuing to bluff on the river.
If the latter is true I would expect a larger bet tho, unless it’s an extremely sophisticated bluff targeting specifically Ace high (I don’t give most 1/3 players credit for this type of play tho).
All in all, we’re getting 5:1 vs a maniac can we fold???




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just fold

1. Unless you have a better read of opponent, you can't always expect maniacs to exhibit any semblance of logic as to the hows/whys with which they've played their hand. I think you're really just guessing on the river because he can show you his holding to be a very wide range and/or not understand how to properly size his bet with relationship to his holding...he might not even be trying/able to put you on a hand???

2. 5:1 is attractive, but I'd consider the call of the river bet as less for value, and more for information, especially if he hasn't actually shown down any number of hands (check-mucking the river doesn't help much)...and just take the pie in the face if Villain shows AT or KT.

Good Luck and Good Hunting!

River is really bad for you. I fold.

3 bet was good. Everything else too

I think you played the hand fine. River is brutal for you, so I'd sigh-fold. You're getting a good enough price that you could bluff-catch if Vs truly a maniac, but other than 56 there's not much he can have that you're ahead of unless he truly just spazzed out the entire hand.

Getting 5 to 1 from a maniac. I shrug my shoulders and call. Yeah you might be losing the majority of the time to something weird like QT but the price is too good. Also I wouldn't mind the information which would let me play future hands with him better.

I think that the primary problem is that you had a plan preflop and then it went out the door. The turn decision is where we need to address the problem. We need a plan here. We shift from the aggressor to uhhhh.... IDK I guess I call this 1/4 pot sized bet because I don't know where I am at. You leveled yourself here. Put the V on a range and act accordingly.

@paratrooper99 LOL you pretty much nailed my thinking exactly.
My first thought is that we can’t fold too much of our range to a 1/4 pot bet so we’re gonna be calling here with a lot of hands anyways, and if a good chunk of our range is over cards than 99 makes the cut to continue.
How would you approach the situation on the turn? I don’t love raising or folding with 99 there, and yes it would be nice to put villain on a range but it’s very hard when villain starts with so many hands preflop...


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I agree with the fold river but with a maniac I shove preflop if anything. You're deep so it's a much tougher decision than the ones I typically face in 1/2

you want to 3b shove $500 over a $20 open? With 99? Even the worst players are folding worse and snapping with QQ+, AK. You are IP vs a maniac. Play some poker, it's fun.

OP NH WP calling now. Station down ip vs maniacs is really all you can do.

Raising ott seems like an overplay.

I don't see much point c-betting this flop. Check and the maniac will bet 100% OTT and we can keep his range super wide. I don't like betting the flop because he might decide to fold a lot of his air and weaker pairs you beat. Depends what kind of maniac he is, but they aren't all idiots. Some will bet with near 100% predictability if you show weakness but if you bet or in particular you raise (post flop) they're folding decently often.

I'm calling the river but it's close. He could easily have busted clubs or a SD or nothing.