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05-20-2017 , 09:53 PM
Hi all,

Playing a 1/3 game.

Hero playing very tight have an absolute maniacs on my direct right and have the best seat at the table. Waiting patiently to try and get paid by this player.

H: has only 110 dollars ( I know I know add on) just didn't feel like it since I was playing with my friend at the same table and it was his first time at the casino.

V1: playing pretty solid one of the better players at the table. Likes to donk bet a ton when the flop texture favors his range. He also has been limping and calling raises fairly loose ( he limped 78 suited UTG and called a 15 dollar raise from the cutoff earlier) hasn't 3 bet a ton or gotten to out of line. In his 30s

OTTH:hero raises to 11 UTG ( could have limped I guess since my stack was so shallow but I didn't want to call a huge raise either and play OOP with 88. Folds to V in the cutoff and he reraises to 30 hero should....
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05-20-2017 , 10:37 PM
Hero should fold. Hero should also at least add 100 unless he's just planning on playing lockdown tight with the maniacs on his right.
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05-20-2017 , 10:38 PM
Pretty easy to get abused with your stack & (new to live poker) image here, fold would be standard without more reads
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05-20-2017 , 10:39 PM
Fold. We have too little behind to call and set-mine, we are also OOP and heads-up.

We opened UTG, so V is most likely not 3betting light, so this becomes a pure math problem.

Against a reasonably optimistic 3bet range of AQ+, TT+, we have ~37% equity. Fold equity calculator says V has to fold just under 1/3 of the time for us to break even with a shove.

With only 100 behind, V is snap-calling with the entire 3bet range above.
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05-20-2017 , 10:41 PM
V1 doesn't sound solid at all. With your stack depth and table image, either open big, 5-6x, or fold. (If I think it'll get alot of folds except for the maniacs in the blinds I'm likely to raise. If I think at least a few people will call, I'll just fold) As played, easy laydown as we don't have the set-mining odds.
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05-20-2017 , 10:42 PM
Shove or fold. I would fold and top up.
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05-21-2017 , 02:10 PM
As others have said (you included), top up.

I'd actually advocate a limp here. If your image is that you are fishy (small stack, friends with someone obviously new), people won't assign much weight to your limp. You're hoping that someone makes a normal raise and 6 people call it. At which point you're hoping to hit your set, where you c/jam. Not the best plan, but you're way too shallow to open this pot OOP with a medium PP.

AP, you have to fold. You can't put in ~27% of your stack pre with a hand that's dominated by a 3! range. There are no boards you like other than one with an 8.
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05-21-2017 , 04:21 PM
I would have limped pf, waited for a bunch of calls, have the maniac raise and then shoved all in with your stack size.

As played, easy fold. You don't have enough to set mine and you're oop for the hand.
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05-21-2017 , 04:30 PM
With a short stack and maniacs, you should be limping 100% of the hands you play and then jamming 100% of those hands after a maniac raise. You can't "play poker" post; you can't play speculative hands for implied odds; you can't bluff, float, or do anything tricky.

Fortunately, you don't need to.

Take advantage of the inherent advantages of being shorter than everyone else: play super tight, stick it all in pre or OTF at the latest. Make monies.
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05-21-2017 , 04:54 PM
Fold.
Easy game.
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05-23-2017 , 11:45 AM
With this stack size I think I'd rather have the maniac on my left. We can limp in, watch him raise, see 3+ calls, and then just shove with our big hands. And if we decide to open our big hands ourselves, we'll never get outplayed postflop with this small stack.

I would have limped preflop. Good chance there is a bunch of limps to the maniac in the BB who attempts to take down the dead money, where we can then shove (where we should typically have pretty good equity against maniac range). Really hate opening, putting in 10% of our stack where we have no idea what anyone else at the table has yet, plus will hate most flops.

I would fold to the 3bet. Guy hasn't been 3betting, and we're a shortstack opening in EP, this guy is prepared to play for stacks. We're either flipping (with no real dead money) or crushed, and never crushing.

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