So what happened? Did you call and what did he have? Lol


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I called and he had TT shrug emoji, Kd Ah no help on turn and river. he "put me on AK" or so he says but i dont know why he shoves in that case tho

Bet 40 pre.

AP bet more OTF. I would size so you can comfortably call a jam or jam yourself OTT. Maybe 125.

AP call and ride the variance train. Probably against an overpair but you've got 8 outs against even a set. If he has the straight already that sucks but oh well.

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Check flop, betting is not good

Just saw result. I don't think you made any major errors this hand, just minor sizing things. Made a gutsy call and lost. It happens. But you had 13 outs against TT so totally fine IMO.

Had a hand almost exactly like this the other day. Same hand. 87dd which I raise pre. Flopped exact same but two clubs and a spade. I bet flop, turn is a spade, I check planning to crai villain ships first. I correctly put him on the nut flush draw and call, he spikes an ace, I lose a 425BB pot. w/e

Can't shy away from these spots just because they're high variance. In the long run these kind of situations can be very profitable.

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But this is kinda the weakest part of his range, no?

I stoved against QQ-55/98s/87s/76s/65s/75s and we're about a 60/40 dog. Not bad considering the money in the pot, but overall we're typically a dog if someone is happy getting big money in on the flop. Course sometimes everyone folds to the flop bet and we take down huge money.

Overall, we got in money preflop as a dog and money postflop as a dog against any reasonable range willing to get it in. I'm not sure that's a good overall strategy.

GimoG

No TT is pretty typical. Granted it's close to the bottom of V's range--I wasn't suggesting we had 13 outs against his whole range.

I do think we're usually against an overpair that doesn't want to see a turn. We might occasionally see 55 - 77 here just because the board is 3 to a straight. People rarely play sets like this in general though. I also think we're never against 98. Board is rainbow. Players at this level don't jam with the nuts unless it's vulnerable, and it's not vulnerable yet. 44 is also a common holding here, and occasionally KK and AA, maybe 33.

We're 47.68% against {QQ-44,AhAc,AsAc,KhKc,KsKc,3s3c,86s+,75s+,65s}.

Plenty of money in the pot to call.

Pre-flop bet is pretty standard. Hero could limp but I like betting with these types of hands as they're excellent barreling candidates. Post flop I don't see how hero could have played any differently, except sizing the bet larger, which would set up an easy turn jam and make calling the flop shove easier.

Did anyone watch that fight between McGregor and Mayweather?

Did you notice how Mayweather abandoned his Philly Shell defense after the first few rounds, then just put his hands up, and pummeled the Irishman?

Same thing.

Capitalizing off position, aggression and skill edge is fine under the Marquess of Queensberry rules in solo combat against a gentleman classically trained in the sweet science of fisticuffs. Not so good in a brawl against an Irishman rabbit punching you in the back of the head ... let alone half the table.

So how do you fight this game?

Simple: Call.

You are getting ~70:1 odds to hit a monster. A monster at this table is flopping two pair or better. With 67s you only need about 20:1. This, of course, won't work anywhere else but at a live game against 4 limpers calling a straddle....

But guess what?

We are playing a live game against 4 limpers who called a straddle.

Easy game.