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Top Set on Coordinated Flop, is this a bad fold OTT? Top Set on Coordinated Flop, is this a bad fold OTT?

01-06-2019 , 01:07 AM
V is unknown but as observed, he is pretty taggish. Hero is taggish

3 limpers

SB raised to 12$

Hero in BB calls 10$

Limpers all call.

Pot : 60$

Flop : 3s4s5h

SB checks

Hero decided to bet for 40$ with 55p

All folds to butt who makes the call

SB folds

Pot : 140$

Turn : As

Hero checks. 200$ behind OTT

V immediately pulls out entire stack of 25$ chips without hesitation, totalling 270$. He didn't even ask for chip stack count from hero

I feel that the FLOP lead is terrible. It's multiway pot, there's 3 limpers behind hero to act. Could we have folded the TURN? The bet size is insane. If V have a strong hand, why would he have wanted to push hero out of the pot? Yes, hero's going to be pot committed if hero calls his TURN bet, if he betted smaller but if he has a straight, isnt that ideal?

Hero asked him 2 hours later what he had, he said he forgotten and asked hero which hand was hero talking about. He still insisted that he forgotten and looks genuine about it. And mentioned, maybe top pair? Lol. Top pair on a coordinated flop? Hm

Last edited by smokey93; 01-06-2019 at 01:16 AM.
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01-06-2019 , 03:35 AM
Not folding. Have 20% equity when behind.

He is bluffing or betting worse more often than 20% of time. So plus EV call. Against a lot of tags it would be very +EV.
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01-06-2019 , 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikko
Not folding. Have 20% equity when behind.

He is bluffing or betting worse more often than 20% of time. So plus EV call. Against a lot of tags it would be very +EV.
Hey Mikko thanks

Would you have betted the TURN yourself instead of check calling?
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01-06-2019 , 06:59 AM
Flop lead is fine/standard/good. I might've bet bigger but whatevs.

Turn is wp also, imo. People just dont bluff often enough in these spots and/or check back their showdownvalue too often. I probably call turnbets up to 120 and sigh fold on unimproved rivers.
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01-07-2019 , 01:28 AM
I thinking folding to the jam is OK. Front door straight and flush got there. If V’s jam bluffing, good for him.
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01-07-2019 , 01:58 AM
Hey guys sorry man, some errors while typing, its 3c4c5h

And TURN is As

So, there's no made flush

But I think the fold is terrible because there are tons of other hands V could be leading TURN with since we checked OTT

What would you do then? OTT on the correct flop of 3c4c5h and TURN As, after we betted FLOP and TURN actiom is on us
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