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1/3 - 22 flopped FH, tried to slowplay 1/3 - 22 flopped FH, tried to slowplay

03-14-2017 , 02:55 AM
Hero ($380) - tables been tight, no much action, lots of folding including hero.

Villain ($340) - in HJ position in this hand , 40s chinese guy reg, pretty good played with him before knows when to fold, when to face aggro, likes to cbet flops but knows to shut down.

Folds to villain in HJ who raises to 18, folds to hero in BB who calls with 22

Flop ($37) , Flop: AA2

Hero checks, Villain bets 15, hero calls and slowplays and expects him to bet on turn with his bluffs / Ax hands

Turn ($67) , Turn: 3

Hero checks, villain checks... woops...?

River ($67), River: 8 , hero leads for 30 , villain raises to 90, hero shoved... was this a correct play or probably should have just called, hero also wants to stack this player more than any other , so leaned toward a shove more than anything else, i mean he could be slowplaying his AK or AQ here on the river too right?
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03-14-2017 , 03:30 AM
If V is known to shut down, then x/r the flop. He's going to continue with his aces no matter what. It makes it a lot easier to get stacks in.
Don't want him to check back flush draws on turns, or if the flush completes on turn, have him check back some of his aces. Additionally, if he has a hand like a medium pocket pair then you are only going to get action from him if he improves to hit his set and then he stacks you.

Slow playing makes sense if people are barrel-happy on turn cards, but this player doesn't seem to fit this description.
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03-14-2017 , 03:36 AM
Call the $90 raise, don't re-raise. Re-raising in this spot accomplishes exactly **** all.

It's very likely he could be raising AK/Q/J hands thinking you whiffed and are now trying to buy the pot. The pot is relatively small, so V can easily value raise AK/AQ and expect hands like AJ/10/9 to pay off.

Re-raising though only gets nutted hands to continue. Re-raising here is next level but only against next level opponents, and should be reserved for them, not against your typical 1/3 player.
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03-14-2017 , 04:42 AM
Bet flop bet turn bet river. As played... I'd make it $200 targeting all of his Ax hands but I'm spewy and you probably shouldn't listen to my advice.
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03-14-2017 , 05:55 AM
I like the flop check but if villain c-bets and knows when to shut down then either check/raise flop or bet turn. If you lead flop and villain doesn't have an ace they often give up right there.

As played call the raise on the river but don't 3 bet/shove. The raise can be a worse AX but if you shove over you are announcing a nutted hand an only AK+ is likely to continue unless villain thinks you are bluffing.
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03-14-2017 , 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadJ
I like the flop check but if villain c-bets and knows when to shut down then either check/raise flop or bet turn. If you lead flop and villain doesn't have an ace they often give up right there.

As played call the raise on the river but don't 3 bet/shove. The raise can be a worse AX but if you shove over you are announcing a nutted hand an only AK+ is likely to continue unless villain thinks you are bluffing.
Man I must play in some loose games. The only reason I don't re raise this river raise is because Ax probably doesn't check the turn with a flush draw on board. Fish majorly over value trips. It would be seriously hard for me to find an average Joe 1/3 player who folds trip aces on this run out.
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03-14-2017 , 11:15 AM
I don't think most people realize what a big leak preflop is. Yeah, we're getting ~23:1 implied odds, but big deal. We'll be HU OOP to a good player. You really think setmining is going to be profitable in this spot? It isn't, so unless we have a much different plan postflop other than hitting a 2, this is a trivial fold preflop.

SPR is ~9, which means in order for stacks to go in (what we want) we have to make sure a bet goes in on each street. This guy could easily check a street back. So I like 3/4 PSB - PSB x 2 to setup a river shove. On this board, we're basically only going to get stacks in if (a) he has an A or (b) he decides to rep an A. We might miss a cbet by betting, but even that's not guaranteed.

Flop/turn play (basically turning our hand face up OOP and just hoping for the best by betting out, lest this result happens) is a big reason why preflop is *clearly* unprofitable.

On the river I also jam over his raise. ETA: AK is never folding, other big Ax will have difficult folding, that's good enough for me although there is a chance we've just walked into 88/A8.

ETA: Surprised no one else has commented on preflop.

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03-15-2017 , 03:38 AM
Result: villain snap called and showed 88
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