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1/3 10 checks and an overbet 1/3 10 checks and an overbet

04-25-2019 , 05:08 PM
1/3 with effective stacks like $200-300. Sorry I don't remember exact amounts. Commentary on any street welcome.

Hero on button with A3

EP limper is in almost every hand. I've seen him bet big before, as in a hand where I raised QQ utg to $15, he called on button and I check/folded the A-K-x flop to his $50 bet.

SB started off rowdy but got pwned a couple times and seems to be playing a standard loose/passive game. BB and the MP limper present as middle-of-the-road players.

EP limps, MP limps, hero raises to $15, SB, BB, EP and MP call.

Flop is K - 8 - 8 rainbow (5 players, $70) and it checks around.
Turn is A and it checks around. Anyone bet here?
River is Q no flush and EP limper bets $100, folded to hero...
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04-25-2019 , 05:26 PM
Preflop result is completely standard at most 1/3 LLSNL games I've played at. I don't like the result, especially with some small 66bb stacks in the mix, so I overlimp. My raising range after 2 limpers at a typical loose / non-deep table tightens *way* up here, even in position.

I also give up on the flop and check back.

I'm completely fine with checking back the turn. We absolutely do not want 2 bets going in at this point, so eliminating the turn bet helps that. Our hand also looks pretty face up at this point if we do bet so I doubt we're getting called by worse that often. I would much rather bet with like JTs that we got outta line with preflop as there is a much better chance we get better hands to fold as we can rep the Ace very credibly.

I probably sigh fold to the river bet. He could easily be tarpping with a monster OOP and now be looking to finally get paid off once all his tarpping failed. He's also betting into 4 opponents who could easily be sandbagging anything. Plus JT got there. Plus we didn't see what he overbet with last time (it could have simply been the nuts).

ETA: Totally missed that we're chopping with lots of worse Aces, but still; plus he could also have a bigger two pair (especially being the first caller of the preflop raise).

Gisitjustmeordowenotseeyouaroundheremuchanymore?G
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04-25-2019 , 05:26 PM
Hand is OK, but against this lineup (loose/passive with two limpers already), I'd limp pre.

Call river and expect to chop (although your check of the A turn might have worked) -- fold is fine, too, but I probably call.

Edit: Would be nice to know what hands this guy has shown up with or any other history.
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04-25-2019 , 07:56 PM
Hero doesn’t want to bet this turn for 1/2 psb and is contemplating calling this river for 100?
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04-25-2019 , 08:50 PM
are you frequently getting so many callers when you raise pf? if so id just limp.

id stab at the flop for 1/3 pot. theres too much money in there and the board is too dry to just give up. make AJ fold and make small pp's think about it.

id bet the turn for 1/3 pot, i dont want to give so many people a free river.

as played id just fold, not worth it. good bluff sir.
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04-25-2019 , 10:14 PM
Overlimp pre, or make it bigger 20 min
Flop check fine
Turn can bet small or check I don't mind
River I fold, I mean we are calling to chop, and villains at this low stake will slowplay way too much imo
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04-26-2019 , 12:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javanewt
Edit: Would be nice to know what hands this guy has shown up with or any other history.
I think he had done the wtfoverbet one other time in a hand against someone else and there was a similar pattern of weakness. I forget the specifics.

In one hand I had overlimped the button with T9o - he stabbed at the 9-4-3cc flop pot with J6cc which he had limped from EP. Check/called $20 on a K turn and checked the river.

I had a hard time putting him on a hand, but a hard time assessing this as a bluff. You'd think JT or trip 8's woulda bet smaller to get a call but maybe he is hoping someone has anything to play sheriff with....I thought about it.
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04-26-2019 , 10:26 AM
It's definitely your the check on the turn that makes me want to call river. (If he has a value hand, why so much? Is he smart enough to "act" bluffy so that someone with an A might call?)

Fold is fine, though, and in a vacuum probably the best play.
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