This is a hand played at the V that tilted me, but wanted to see if i could pick a better line.

Hero - Been at the table for about an hour, been being Tight/Nitty. Made a stupid hero call OOP with KK vs. against a LAG who was betting single card NFD and bluffed the river and won. and Iso'd a EP PFR then called the 4bet shove 50bb from the PFR with KK. and lost KK < AJs on AK6 tt board.

Villian - Been at the table same time frame. Proclaims he plays 5/10..*shrugs* He's fairly active typical super LAG i guess. Stealing/Raising alot pre. Bets $35 into a 20 pots with Mid/Top pair on dry boards. Makes big bluffs/semi bluffs from what i've seen.

Full ring 9 players

Villian UTG ($550) ish
BB ($200)
SB ($150)
HERO - Button ($350) ish

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
UTG calls $2, Folds to Hero (BTN) raises to $8, SB calls $7, BB calls $6 UTG calls $6

Flop: ($32) Q , T , 6 (4 players)
Checks to UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $35, UTG calls $25

My thoughts...


Turn: ($102) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $50.....Hero?!?!?!?!

My Fishy THoughts...



Results!

I think this was played well. I've found that typically a donk bet on a wettish board usually means a draw and villian is trying to "buy a card". All you can do is keep your cool and note this play. Villian will hang himself eventually betting out with hands like that.

If he's as bluffy as you say he is, there is still some warrant in calling the turn. I think you're really only worried about 66 and flush draws. He could still be betting the turn with KdJx or Jd9x, something along those lines. He probably is also leading out with his made flushes too at this point. He also only leads for half pot when you have roughly $300 behind, so it doesn't seem like he is going for much value either. If a diamond comes on the river and he overbet shoves all in, you have a bluff catcher at this point and given your read, I would probably call with Q high flush unless there is some other history where he overbets with the nuts only or doesn't bluff on 4 card flush boards or something along those lines. If the river is a non diamond king, you might be able to find a fold, but I don't see a lot of rivers we can fold to otherwise unless it's an 8 or 9 and his bet is pretty sizable. I do agree with the general read that leading out cheaply on a drawy board is for that reason but usually when I see good LAG's do it, it's to take advantage of extra equity that they don't really have. He could just have the bare straight draw but plans on bluffing with any diamond too.

Grunch.

$8 is fine pf, you're going to get callers and it is unlikely on any flop the UTG is folding.

However, the raise on the flop is too small. He's getting 3:1 and should be willing to call more with the FD. I'd pop it to $60. If he had a set, he'd be betting more to price out the FD.

The turn sucks and another lead out, now stronger means he's representing the flush. Meanwhile, you have TP and aren't improving. If he called with air on the flop and bluffed you on the turn, good for him. He isn't doing it often enough to call.

man, don't post results like that.

I might minraise the turn here and check back the river. Not a conventional line, but it's what I'd do. Fold to a RR on the turn.

Turn seems like a pretty clear call to me. It's 50 to see 150, we have TPTK and even if villain has a flush our Q may be live. Remember that you need to widen your calling range against looser and more aggressive players. I would call and call most river bets.

I would've called the flop. You're in a bad SPR for TPTK since you can't reasonably price out the draws. The goal is to get to showdown on the cheap.

huh?

KKK1010 > AA1010K IMO

We are all smart now that you told us the hand results, but you ignored your read and observation here. Bets with mid pair, bluffs/semi bluffs.

People tend to play a pattern and stay with it. Raise bigger on the flop.
He bet the scare card, you let him win.

Granted it is difficult when people bet into the rasier. I am never sure if they think they have the best hand or are more clever than we think.

If he plays $5/$10 he might not mind dumping $500 to $800 in the game. Let him dump it off to you. I don't like one pair hands but you have position and he is LAG.

I really think this is an interesting hand to look at because there are alot of LAG players out there. Which is very good for money. Anyways, I sent this to 2 of my buddies who are professional players in AC. They didn't really say how they would play it but more less give you something to think about. First of all, it's obvious your probably not comfortable with a player like that. You should have moved to different table that your more comfortable with. Secondly, limping on the BTN with AQo wouldn't have been a bad play either. AQ is an overrated hand that can get you stuck in situations. Plus it couldve saved you some money.

As for the flop, I think you hit a good flop against the LAG. From what you said about the guy, him betting on the flop after you raised PF, shows weakness. That's your first indication on FD, MP or TPWK. When you raise, raise bigger against him. Make him pay for drawing out on you. I think $60-$70 range wouldve been a good size raise. Because now with your
small raise, your giving him great odds to call. And it
doesn't help your decision making. If he wouldve called a $60-$70 raise, you can bet he has FD at the very least.

So make things easier for yourself. Turn card was a bad card in some sense, but I don't think it was bad enough for you to fold there. I think calling would be ideal and see how it played out on the river. Plus, your Qd is only beating by A or K if another diamond woulde came out. Obviously if he pushed all-in, I would more likely call him than a good value bet. But with his hand and no one improved, he wouldve probably checked.

All in all, I think your thoughts were correct but you didn't follow thru with it. Go with your instinct next time.

I was tempted to raise the turn, but i would feel like min-raising doesn't accomplish much. and if he calls, i'm more than likely facing a river bet. and with only $107 ish left. I'd have to call it off. The "i'll pay you off speech" comes to mind.

The board was AK6 two toned. and it ran out runner runner flush.

I felt like my read was good, but errrr'd on the side of caution. Thinking he wouldn't try to bluff a player with a tight range.

As for the Villian, it wasn't much longer till his aggression hung him. He bet hard OOP with Mid pair and shoved on the river when he hit two pair. A guy snap called with a straight. and he went on uber tilt and left.

The board is paired? Full house>flush

AK6 with two hearts for example, and it ran out another 2 hearts. Not two tens.

call (no, don't fold!) the turn - looks like a blocking bet but i wouldn't want to overcommit with these stack sizes...and he may fire again on the river.
WBN's minraise line is actually a nice play to have in your arsenal to freeze these donkbets.