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1/2nl,TPMK in a multiway pot 1/2nl,TPMK in a multiway pot

01-09-2014 , 03:31 AM
1/2n 9-handed table. Hero has TAG image ,picks up QdJd in UTG1 and decides to mix up and raise $15.Two players in mp call and BT(villian) who seems a bit loose preflop calls.Hero has about $330 and villian has $130.I just moved to this table without good reads on players.Villian looks like a meh regular.
Flop($55): Qc 6d 7s hero bets $25,one passive mp calls with $400 behind,villian calls in bt.
turn($130):4d hero checks,mp checks, villian bets $25,hero calls,mp folds.
Turn($180): 9c hero checks,villian shoves all-in for total $65.
Hero cant fold given pot odds?
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01-09-2014 , 01:31 PM
As played, ez fold.

You are beating QT only, don't have enough info if V could do this w/54s. River pot odds really overvalued imo, especially vs. a new player.
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01-09-2014 , 04:20 PM
Eh I say just call it. It's such a small bet and he could have sensed weakness in the turn and be trying to steal. Or he could have picked up a flush or straight draw on the turn, which missed except the gunshot T8. These are rare, but you only need to win here 27% of the time.

The big mistake here happened PF. Raising PF EP with QJ isn't "mixing it up; it's making a bad play. Fold that hand pre...but if you want to play it, you want a multiway pot so raise less, or even limp it to start a limp chain. I don't advocate that unless you know the table raises PF rarely though, so yeah, fold PF.

P.S. How do you have a TAG image I you just moved there? And how do you know the V is a "meh regular"? Actually what does that even mean?
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01-09-2014 , 04:32 PM
Yeah, folding this pre. As played, I'd bet more on the flop, ~$35-40. It might be spew, but I'd probably also then bet turn enough to put V AI, and to fold out other hands that might be on a draw/lower pair. The only hands V could have that the 4 improves OTT are 44 or wonky draw/2 pair hands (i.e., 85, 53, 64, 74). So, unless he had a set on the flop, he now likely has a pair + draw hand or a PP (88-JJ). And you have a redraw to diamonds.
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01-09-2014 , 04:44 PM
As played call. You checked two streets on a draw heavy board and rep ak, how else can v win the pot?

Next time dont open so big utg with broadway connectors. The nice-looking top pair that you hit might be way behind your caller's range.
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01-09-2014 , 09:19 PM
I see a couple posters advocating betting the turn, I like the check/call on the turn. If we bet the turn and get raised our hand doesn't have great equity against a raising range OR a getting it in range. Vs. like sets, a straight, two pair, and combo draws we're probably like a 25/75 dog. We basically have just a flush-draw as our Qx doesn't fair too good vs. a raise. So I'd like a check/call to prevent us from getting blown off our hand.
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