Villain 1 ($600 - MP): Not that important for the hand, but he is a reg who I have a bit of history with. He can get really bluffy/spewy when he senses weakness. But I called his huge river bluff last night (and won) and seems to avoid me getting tricky with me since (check/folding a ton vs me).

Villain 2 ($300 - BTN): Newbie at the table, recreational player who is there with a friend. He said they usually play home games but decided to come out tonight. A bit uncomfortable at the table, but plays a lot of hands passively. Seems to limp or flat just about every hand. When he does bet or raise, he does it small for value.

Hero ($250 - UTG+1): Getting very talkative/comfortable at this casino as I get to know people. Outgoing and cracking a lot of jokes, but avoid any serious talk about poker/strategy (which V1 loves to do). Definitely playing tight, not involved in a lot of hands, and been complaining about being card dead. I quiet down completely whenever I'm in a hand.

V1/V2 are men in early 30s, Hero is mid 20s.

Hero in UTG+1 with QQ, raises to 13. Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls.

Flop: Kc Tc 4s (Pot: ~$40)
Checks all around.

Turn: Jd (Pot: ~$40)
Hero first to act, value bets $25 with the pair/OESD. V1 folds, V2 calls.

River: Qc (Pot: ~$90)
Hero tanks... to bet/fold or not to bet/fold?

I did not put villain on a K since I believe he would have bet when checked to him in position with the draws on the boards. Also possible for two clubs. We beat: JT, QT, QJ, KQ, 44, JJ, TT. We are beat by: AT, AQ, AJ, 99, 9T, J9, Q9.

I just don't know if he would slow play his sets, and we have so many blockers to the Qx two-pair hands, I'm not sure if this is a good thin value bet spot.

How do ever expect being called by worse here?

it is super thin i think. if u have discipline to b/f 30. i guess c/f or b/f small are both viable.

If the guy loves to hero call, bet.
If the guy loves to bluf, c-call.

If the guy doesn't clearly go into one of these 2 categories and with no further reads, maybe a small blocking bet. These suck against good players who read them for what they are, but are still valuable against relative newbies..

But against the villain described, c-folding (but expecting to win with a check back most of the time) seems quite alright.

I don't think it's a good thin value bet spot. Nothing worse calls and nothing better folds.

I would probably just check/fold. I don't think it's worth it to b/f something like 30 as blocker, since V2 is passive and will probably just check down most hands that you beat.

Dont think 30 is a blocker bet. 30 is a bet enticing for ppl to call with TP and 2p hands.

Fwiw a few days back, final board is KT3QA (with back door flush coming). My small river bet was called by both villains in the hand with one just calling with bare Ace.

I dont think it is slam dunk value though and so c/f cannot be much worse/better than small b/f. B/f big is definitely a mistake as the calling range will dominate you then.

I think c/f here is fine, assuming he probably has some AT AJ type hand to call your preflop raise and the 25$ bet on the turn being that it's highly unlikely he has the case Q and is calling with an open ender, I would have rather cbet the flop to turn V's hands a little more face up to make this river decision a little easier