flat and look to get it in OTR

it is very possible that V2 has AQ as well and V1 can have AK some % of the time

flat and look to get an over call from V1

Raise turn... You can't expect V to overcall with KK 3 handed and get value from him on the river. I'd try and get value from V2 now and river.

Imo value from raising vs v2 >>> value from v1 staying in hand.

This is a WA/WB situation. The only bad card for you here is either a king or a 2nd ace, since we accept the fact that you are probably getting stacks in if one of them has AA and doesn't spazz shove.

Hands that will call a raise: AQ, AA, maybe AK calls a small raise. 99 probably calls here even though they can't realistically be good.

Hands that aren't calling: KK, JJ, AK(at least they shouldn't) and anything else weaker than this.

I don't see the value in raising here. Just flat and give V1 a chance to do it for you or try to keep them in. Any of the hands you are ahead of are on a 1-2 outer and probably recognize this, and anything you are behind has you utterly crushed. Calling may keep V1 in and given V2's stack size, he is just about pot committed if you bet the river and he has a hand.

This was my thinking, and so I flat figuring that if V1 folds and V2 leads the river I have an easy shove.

Flop ($111): A-Q-3 rainbow

V2 checks. Hero checks. V1 checks.

Turn ($111): 9

V2 donks $35. Hero flats. V1 folds.

River ($181): 9

V2 checks. Hero?

I have about $200 left. Shove or value bet $80-100?

V2 seems pretty weak here and i don't see many hands calling a shove. if she did lead turn with 9x, she is most likely going for a c/r, so you don't miss much value when you bet smaller and she has trips.

i'd go 100-120 and look to get looked up by Ax.

I'd bet 90. (Again, if they have AA, you are getting stacked, so we are focused on maximizing value in all other situations) It accomplishes 2 goals:

1. Give V a chance to spazz shove with something that isn't AA/99.

2. V may perceive this as a bluff/value bet that they think they can beat.

I don't think V can call a shove with less than a boat here unless they are bad.

To those in the $80-100 club: if you knew that villain has AK here, would you still size that way? Because I would shove in that case.

In that light, I think it's a choice between shoving to maximize against Ax, or betting absurdly small (like "same bet"ting him for the comedy value) to maximize against KK or induce some other spazz. I prefer the latter.

That is exactly the bet range I think AK would consider calling.

If you give a tight player a 60% chance of calling a bet of 100 and a 25% chance of calling a shove, this makes the smaller bet more profitable. I think this is a reasonable assessment of the likely calling ranges.

If we had more behind, i'd consider shoving as a bluff-type play, but here, I think our line looks very strong and V is either peddling the nuts or has KK/AK and isn't going to call the shove.

Yeah I guess we just disagree about how elastic his calling frequency with Ax is.

Is she really just completing in the sb with AK?

Think weaker Ax hands at much more likely. Definitely nothing wrong with shoving. I'm all for lookin to maximize value. Just looks like she is pretty weak here after just completing in the sb, leading small ott, and checking river.

Ohhhh my bad I misremembered the action and thought V2 was the old man PFR.

Results:

Most guys who can play a lick don't call a limp-reraise with AK, AQ, AJ, QQ, JJ before the flop. The good players knows what a limp+reraise OOP means preflop.

AK

I think she may have been a lot less tight than you thought. I probably would have folded AJo pre to that raise. I would consider taking a flop heads up somewhat deep, but after you have another caller, that just is asking to be dominated or against a good pair.

Good hand though, very worthy of discussion and glad the result was the best possible.

Your surprised she called with an ace? Hand was basically very easy to play after the flop, preflop was the only interesting part imo and I think it should have been a fold.

snap ship the river

I mean don't actually snap ship but like imo the river is a clear ship

I was surprised she called a raise and 3b with AJo, and was also surprised that she snap called the river shove without thinking twice about it.

Seems like a snap fold, we don't have odds to set mine against v1 and if we hit a set I don't Imagine v2 paying us off.