Hero: $320, Mid 20’s recreational player playing at the Venetian in Las Vegas while on vacation. Mostly play a TAG game, but I'm not afraid to put people to the test based on live tells/playing style. Always looking to improve my game. Have been at the table for 3 hours.

Villain: $270, Early 20's young Asian lady, tourist. Sat down 30 min earlier, drinking tea and not talking. Quickly pegged her as the nittiest at the table that included two OMCs. It seemed to me that she just started playing live poker.

Relevant History: Villain bought in for $200 and now has $270 all from three hands played in two orbits:
- Hand 1: She raises to $15 UTG+2, gets one caller. Flop is A67, she checks and caller checks. Turn 2, She bets $15, gets called. River J, goes check-check and she wins with KK.
- Hand 2: Three limpers, SB completes and she checks BB. Flop is A109, SB checks and she bets $10, gets one caller. Turn 7, check-check. River Q, check-check. She wins with AK suited.
- Hand 3: She limps in MP and OMC checks BB, five to the flop. Flop A34 rainbow, OMC bets $10, she calls. Turn 9 completing rainbow, OMC bets $20, she calls. River Q, OMC bets $20. She calls. OMC proudly shows AQ, she wins with a set of 3s.

Actual Hand:

Preflop: Villain raises to $15 UTG, everyone snap folds to me on the Button. I look down at KK. SB and BB look ready to fold their cards.

What is villain's range? Should we flat call or raise based on her range?

Range? You tell us, you where the one playing her. I would tentatively guess something like AK/QQ+ given your description. More importantly, she seems very passive post flop. That being the case, I'm inclined to just flat call and play post flop poker. Your hand is not far ahead of her range preflop, but she should give you an idea where you are post flop very quickly.

My plan would be to bet all flops if she checks to us, fold ace high flops if she bets and call most other flops.

I am going to go with a range a bit wider than above. Since the villain has only been playing for 30 min. I don't think we can quite confine them to such a narrow open raising range from EP. Who knows, they may be open limping AQ but I am not ready to correlate passive post flop play and a relucntancy to raise several players oop pre-flop AK as they may appear on the surface.

So, I am going to go with a range of, AQo/10's+

With that range in mind, I want to 3bet against this player. They are rarely putting money in post flop when they are behind and MAY call with an inferior hand pre-flop. When they are raise/calling pre-flop we get the extra value from them calling our 3bet w/ worse before their passive nature takes over otf.

We get to play pretty poker, more or less, against villain post-flop since their propensity to bluff us off hands is going to be low as we know they are only bet/raising hands they are fairly certain will be in front. Additionally we get to put more money in w/ what is very likely the best hand pre-flop(did I mention this yet.) If we get 4bet pre-flop it is going to be AA almost always, I have to believe.

I would 3bet to $40-45 pre-flop. Post-flop we can play accordingly but this sets us up to where we can bet ~$60 on boards we feel confident and shove turns for a little less than a psb (contingent on board and action.) I am not sure how often we will be good when we get called pre-flop, otf, and if we stack ott, there are some hands though and we will have position while determining the action.

Grunch:

Click it back to $35.

Her range is QQ+ and I don't think she's folding any of it.
We are pretty 50/50 vs that range.

But to be honest, I have no idea what we can do to get money in here. She will likely fold QQ/KK on Ace high boards. but we lose value if she folds both of those. Honestly I think our goal is to get to showdown as cheaply as possible unless we hit a set.

Unless I'm completely mistaken, if we are 50% vs her range and we can never make her fold better we have no reason to bet. So, flop a set or check as much possible.

Start flame now.
(I really have no fscking clue what to do here against a likely nit so I'd rather post and be completely wrong so I can be corrected and learn.)

Raise to 40.

Are you honestly asking if you can raise KK vs. a open to $15?

Flatting has more value against this type of V. You already know how she plays her big hands, and thats how you will make the right decisions post flop.

Edit: against a nitty new player who doesnt know how to reraise, by raising there you are folding qq/ak and keeping in aa/kk. We cant play standard poker by 3 betting against a V like that.

Raise to 40$...folding to 4 bet

Betting all flops.

Highly unlikely we getting much from her postflop.

This is classic FPS "flatting kings b/c i know how she plays and therefore she'll make more mistakes" you're completely disregarding (1) the mistakes she'll make by calling 3bets pre (2) that her postflop mistakes after a 3bet will be worth significantly more. Her tightness is probablyy more likely to imply that a much higher% of her open range will defend vs. a 3bet, if anything.

Raise to 45.
Flat lagtards and barelling bullies when you are in position.

Raise for value.

Well her raising range is pretty damn tight if she is checking AKs in the bb. I think you can range her at JJ+ that's about it. I like a flat as she will never put you on KK. I think vs an overly passive villan flatting is by for the most profitable.

Id say raise. Only one hand has you beat pre, and your crushing everything else.

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Two things make me really want to raise pre vs this V, despite her being so tight.

1) She plays huge hands passively, so if she shows aggression now or later, we can easily let go of KK.

2) Since she plays hands so passively, it's going to be difficult to get a lot of value with the pf 2nd nuts. So I want to start immediately getting value from QQ, possibly JJ.

With JJ/QQ, V probably thinks she is behind and/or mining, but when a low flop hits and she has an overpair, she's c/c 3 streets.

Easy $40 3 bet. Flatting will hurt your outcome too much.

You can easily stack her if she has anything much after the pot becomes 80 preflop.

Based on those hands she just seems incredibly weak-passive-scared postflop. We don't have an indication of how she plays pre. She could easily be the type of player, common at this level, that wants to see a flop with her good hand and then proceed cautiously once there. She seems to value top pair and a set the same way.

I raise to 45 on the button and PRAY for a call.

I don't think you can define her pre-flop range so narrowly after only 2 orbits. Lots of people don't raise big hands like AK from the big blind. Those same people will raise pocket 8s from MP. I think she easily could have as low as TT or AJs here. If she is a tourist, she probably learned what the best starting hands are and that you should raise them pre-flop; but she hasn't learned to play post-flop yet.

3 betting is a must pre-flop.

raise her pre and not too much and bet at her all the way down smallish so you get paid off. and can get out if she shows you are beat.

My Decision: I ranged her to QQ-AA, and felt she would limp JJ,1010, AK, AQ. I decide to call $15.

Flop ($33): 1095

Villain bets $25. I flat call.

Turn ($83): 9

Villain bets $65. I flat call.

River ($213): 10

She is noticeably upset at the river, and checks...

Comments/critics/advice on all streets welcomed. As played, what do we do on the river after she checks?

Thanks for all the replies.

Shove river as a bluff. Her range is still QQ+. If we check back we lose half the time. Shove river and get her to fold her entire range.

Eff 165 otr. I think V folds worse to a shove, but with JJ/QQ calls in the $75 range. You need to tailor the sizing here to the most V'll call. You know more than us, but ime even $100 will get JJ to fold. I want JJ to call so I'd go a little less.

That's assuming JJ is in V's range. If we accept OP's range of QQ+, we win exactly 50% of the time, so betting the river with an expectation of V calling has no impact on our profit. If however we shove and can expect V to fold QQ+, we win 100% of the time, and our profit increases dramatically.

Even if we accept JJ in V's range, we extract more value by getting V to fold and taking down the current pot 100% of the time than by betting $75 and taking it down only 2/3 of the time.

^ If she folds AA yeah, but we don't know that. She hasn't been put to a big river bet yet. From the HH she seems more passive than nitty, she might check the river and visually be hating it but still can't fold AA.

Doesn't this type of V always 4 bet AA? Value bet the river, $80 or so.

Couldn't agree more. I put in about a year's worth of live poker and this info is spot on. A new player usually won't have an understanding as to why 99 will have to be folded to a 3-bet from an IP player, or any related concept; they're new. The pre-flop range isn't as deathly tight as QQ+AKo despite her cautiousness postflop.

It'd be suicide not to 3-bet pre especially in position with KK. I would probably bet half-pot on all 3 streets and get it in on flops where we don't need to protect, and proceed very cautiously if met with strong resistance. You could even take it a step further and fold without even thinking about it, if met with a c/r, or c/c c/r or some other strong line, since new players simply cannot rep hands.