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04-14-2013 , 08:51 PM

Accomplice

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 338

Hero been sitting for about an hour. Built stack to 150bb playing lag. Haven't shown down any hands. Been betting and c-betting in position mostly.

Villain - my target, limp/calls, loose passive.

Villain limps utg, one other loose passive limps, hero raises to $12 from the CO with KJss. Both villains call.

Flop: $39 Td6c5h

Checks around to hero, hero checks not liking c-betting into these two villains, separate, yes, but not together.

Turn: $39 Jd

Villain leads $20, other villain folds, hero calls.

River: $79 3s

Villain leads $60, hero?

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04-14-2013 , 10:25 PM

andees10

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,281

What is villains stack size?

I prefer a c-bet on this dry board after both villains check to you.

As for the river, his sizing is relatively big for live fish river bet sizing which kind of polarizes his range. Given info and not knowing his stack size I'm probably just calling....However, I think an argument can be made for a small raise (like a clickback or 2.5x)/fold

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04-14-2013 , 10:47 PM

THEOSU

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...calls. plenty in his range that you beat, unless villain is so rocky that he'll check QJ, J9, AT etc.

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04-14-2013 , 10:55 PM

Snapcall87

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I like to make it 15-20 here pre flop. On flop I like your play. I'm def calling river.

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04-14-2013 , 11:00 PM

Accomplice

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 338

Sorry, he's playing about $185. His river bet leaves him with about $93. He's committed half his stack.

I think river is a hero call/fold. Too polarized to get thin value out of a worse Jack

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04-14-2013 , 11:06 PM

andees10

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yea with that stack don't raise. I really don't see how you can find a fold here though. I'm snapping

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04-15-2013 , 12:47 AM

gus1112

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Calls, puke when he rolls over AJ and value owns you, or J10

But can't fold

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04-15-2013 , 12:55 AM

Li0n

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cbet the flop, as played call river

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04-15-2013 , 03:04 AM

grindinglive

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Loose passives have worse than KJ here? Really? I mean we have to be good here roughly 30% of the time, but how often does an LP do this with worse than KJ?

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04-15-2013 , 04:51 AM

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Verodimus

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I like your flop play (c-betting a 10 high flop basically says to me: "I missed the flop please fold.") I think you get called fairly often if you c-bet 2 opponents there unless they play purely fit or fold. The river bet is rather large but I don't think you can justify folding simply from what you've said here. If V only makes strong bets with better than one pair, fold, but as far as a standard player is concerned I think you have to call.

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04-15-2013 , 07:41 AM

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Never folding. Never raising.

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04-15-2013 , 08:17 AM

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RM518

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I don't see a loose passive betting 3/4 pot OTR with a hand that you beat. You need to be good ~30% of the time and I doubt you have that much equity vs his range.

I also don't see a loose passive betting the turn on the come and then betting the river when his FD/SD brick out either.

I would fold.

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04-15-2013 , 08:31 AM

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similar 2 2 2

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54

I'm folding. If he's betting this with anything KJ beats, he's probably not that passive.

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04-15-2013 , 05:22 PM

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JPDynasty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RM518

This. You don't beat much if described villain is loose passive.

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