villain ($300): old man, not an omc but on the tighter side particularly post flop. he's limp called a bunch of times preflop but i've never seen him raise preflop so he may very well have limp-called with big hands each time.

hero ($450): big stack at the table, playing very very tight and pretty aggressive so far. table is pretty loose with preflop calls so my image isn't doing much. playing ABC.

PREFLOP

villain UTG: limps
3 other players limp
hero BUTTON KQ: raises to $10
everyone calls

FLOP ($50) QJ6

villain: bets $14
folds to hero
hero: raises to $50 (i was thinking my hand has value, lots of room to improve and this feels like a blocker/feeler bet.)
villain: calls $50

TURN ($150) 2

villain: checks
hero:?

Haven't read spoiler

I like:
a) bet/fold 92, and probably check back river.
b) check turn and bet/fold river for 92 or call a reasonable river donk

With Qs Js out there, you're probably getting only 1 street of value from flushes you beat vs tight player

my preference leaning towards option b

The raise pre is way too small. $16-$18 is better.

Call the flop.

I think you should flat the flop because an OMC donking into a multi way 3 flush flop should set off some alarms (I.e: sets, made flushes, nut flush draw, not much worse) . So, as played, his call certainly gets me worried about the As, but I'm not getting my panties in a bunch about it, especially once he checks..nonetheless I'll leave myself enough to fold to a shove, so b/f $60ish and if he flats then maybe my panties bunch up.

Sorry I didn't see sizing, i.e. that V bet $14 into $50 on the flop.

Your raise is fine for value.

Grunching, have not read spoiler ...

Pre - higher for value, already $11 of dead $ in.

Flop - ok.

Turn - once a tight post-flop player bets (into multi)/calls I would check back for pot control and try to extract some value on the river. Big spades are taken except for the As. He could have something like Ts9s, but you are likely to get only 1 incremental street of value anyway. Downside is a free card if he flopped a set.

Im hardpressed to see how we are ever raising from anywhere but from behind vs this flop action from said villian, the bottom of this type of players donk range is almost always AK or 2p I would even say imho he never donks in with a worse hand than our

Although villians flop donk is so small, I absolutely hate raising it, often this omc is gonna spazz 3bet shove on you with a flopped flush... super often, these are the only spots theyre capable of spazz shoving pretty much, when they have the effective nuts, and its easy for someone to catch up and put them in a spot where they cant even fold anyways, call that donk!

I dont think omc even donks in too often with a lone As here but he might with the flopped nut flush so turn check is fine (but if we could know he had a low flush flopped theres definitely value to be had cuz he cant fold on that turn)

Valuebet the fk out of river though once he checks turn AND river, he has nut flush precisely never, best part is we can overbet river if we flat flop and check turn pot is 80 on river bet 120 and he is the type if player who can call that often cuz the more we bet on river after showing weakness the more this guy is convinced we are pushing him off now, he likely hems and haws and says fk n puts you on a set or a pissed off turned low flush card, sick value town

Very good summary by Alexandar above.

Just to reiterate I would never worry that the Villain is betting the flop on a draw and then checking the nuts on the turn and river.

agreed.. i should have bet that river without fear.

good thought process and very well explained alexander. i particularly like the play of over-betting river when showing weakness on turn against an omc to get him to think he'll catch a young kid bluffing. i'm going to use that play in the future.

thanks guys!

thanks guys!

Flop and turn are played fine. River if he checks I am betting big, doubtful he folds any spade.

I like the raise on the flop even with an older dude, and I bet 100 on that turn and TID most of the time. OMC checks a nut flush on the turn god bless him.

well youre going to burry yourself with that line because after u raise flop OMC is checkin the nuts to u (the raiser) almost everytime...

come on man OMC not even considering who raised what.

yea i know what you mean but i have seen many a omc able to slow down for one street in a spot like this after being raised on flop and smashing the nuts a lot of them dont consider much but they love to check jam us here

i think when we flat flop though we cap his turn checking range so much and we can still fire potsize 80 and double barrel river being relatively confident he isnt letting go of flushes, not to mention usually they reraise/shove flop and we shudnt be raising them there

Imho, pre is too small.
I don't like raise OTF.
OTT is a check back for me.

Read your spoiler. Imho, after his check OTR, it's an easy "thin" VB. (~75)

B/F $75. I'm putting villain on a range of Ax, AT, KT, Q9/QT (although discounted b/c we block the Q's). Tight guys don't all of a sudden turn a T into a bluff versus this much heat. If we get raised/shoved on, it's a puke fold. I think two pair + give you much more aggression OTF so I'm discounting QJ and 66. We block QQ, and both QQ & JJ raise PF more likely than not.

I like it. Bet $75 to $100 on river and call raise. (Now to look at spoiler.)

Just read the spoiler. When checked to, betting river is a must and I'd size close to pot given your check back OTT. Opponent more likely to range you on a set / 2-pr since most LLSNLs bet flush OTT.

Pre - make it bigger. Not isolating with just 10 If that's the aim. 14 to go on the button (4x plus x per limper).

Flop - I don't hate the raise. Probably make it 40, get worse hands to call.

Turn - I like the check back. Don't know if V is tricky or not, but even so, his flat on flop looks like As.

River - losing a ton of value here. He's not going to risk letting you check back another street with As. I bet half pot.

River is a very easy overbet, as explained the more we bet the more omc levels himself into a call...120