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1-2nl call it off vs unknown? 1-2nl call it off vs unknown?

11-21-2013 , 09:19 PM
1-2nl foxwoods ive never played w this villian before but he seems new to poker as he is limping a ton of hands and seems overall dumb lol

couple limpers in EP I raise KQo to 16$ in MP (Q) and I get called in 3 or 4 spots including original limpers (villian) and someone in the blinds

flop is K74

checks to me I bet flop for $39 - one of the blinds calls and then villian shoves for $106 more to me

he wasnt giving any real tells that i noticed

i feel like AK is a snap call here but kq is kinda borderline since live players love to limpcall AK preflop

thoughts? opinions?
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11-21-2013 , 09:26 PM
If there's four callers there's 80 in the pot. Bet more on the flop and call his push. As played I still call.
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11-21-2013 , 09:53 PM
You're toast. He is trying to tell you he has at least 2p and needs everybody to lay down their flush draws.
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11-21-2013 , 10:10 PM
Need info about other villain in the blinds who apparently is still in the hand.

But from what I can see, most likely one of them is on a FD, not sure about the other one but I'm guessing they have Kx, 2p or a set if they're sticking around at this point. It's hard not to call only an additional $67 with the pot already at $250ish but guessing you could be very well be behind here or having to fade tons of outs ott & otr. Leaning towards a fold...
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11-21-2013 , 10:35 PM
I guess I would shove if our read is correct.
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11-21-2013 , 10:58 PM
What are stack sizes (not just Villain's)? How many callers were there, 3 or 4 (and what is the pot size otf)? These things are important to know. As written, it's difficult to give meaningful advice, but I'm guessing that folding would be a mistake.
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11-21-2013 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
Need info about other villain in the blinds who apparently is still in the hand.

But from what I can see, most likely one of them is on a FD, not sure about the other one but I'm guessing they have Kx, 2p or a set if they're sticking around at this point. It's hard not to call only an additional $67 with the pot already at $250ish but guessing you could be very well be behind here or having to fade tons of outs ott & otr. Leaning towards a fold...
Call here doesn't close the action.

I don't think you see a semi-bluff-check-raise very often here.

Kinda hate playing TPGK in a bloated pot like this. Overall I think the value of hands like KQo go down in value oop unless you can find a opening bet size that narrows down the field a little. But the value of suited connectors goes up, assuming there's no 3betting going on, which there usually isn't at tables like this. Point being there's a lot of money to be made at this table without going down with the ship with TPGK. That's how I look at it anyway.
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11-22-2013 , 04:32 AM
Villian in the blind has me covered but just barely and if I recall correctly he was a spewy type asian player who plays too many hands preflop

and i started hand with somewhere around 450 to 500

Spoiler:
i called 77 good
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11-22-2013 , 04:37 AM
Think before betting whether we are b/calling or not.
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11-22-2013 , 04:48 AM
good point its always smart to have a plan thru out the hand - i originally kinda leaned for bet-call but i didn't want to get hung up on having the entire hand played out and was more focused on protecting a made hand in a mutliway drawy pot with a decent amount of dead money in the middle already and figured i am taking it down with a strong flop bet here such a high % of the time that i should be more concerned with getting the almost 40-50bb in the middle asap than planning what i am going to do on the rare % chance that i get raised by someone
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