150bb effective. Villain has 450 in front of him and is a regular. Seems he is using position against me.

OTTH:

We are in the BB, 2 players limp. We pop it up to 25oop. V calls.

Flop: KJ3ss. Not sure if we have a spade (should have took notice, this is my fault..just getting back to playing.)

We bet 35. V calls.

Turn: brick. We x/f vs V bet of 40.

Thoughts on the flop:
-We have a gut shot and range advantage on this board. Figure the bigger bet is better to sell my story and threaten stacks.

Other thoughts:
After the as I write this I think the following..I should have looked to see if I had the ace of spades. If I didn’t he would have more draws in his range. Not sure if that would make a difference considering low SPR. Do we ever check flop?

Hmm, Villains limp call range probably contains PP, SC, Axs and maybe some Kxs like KJ/KTs. As we also have one over card and a GS I probably lean towards a CBET OTT, although we probably have to maximize our FE with villain probably wanting to continue IP with nfd. Given that I'd probably be happiest with a slight over bet and with the board texture I think we could do the same with KK/JJ and probably KJs enough to be balanced. Cool thing is that if he does call OTT with AXss then he may well give up OTR and we still win ofc, would take a lot of heart for someone to ship OTR with a missed FD.

Don't think x/f turn is that bad though, just hate cbetting flop and giving up when we have some equity.

So you’d rather risk giving up initiative on the flop and calling a flop bet, then facing another bet OTT? Against a weaker player I probably check. Not against a person who recognizes the situation.

Also, how are we generating FE if we are not going for 2-3 streets and bombing it big? The SPR makes it a tough hand to play.

I never said we shouldn't bet flop? I said i prefer to make a cbet OTT and to maximize FE make it bigger. The bigger we make our bet (up to a point) the higher our FE...

You’re right I apologize, I thought you meant just cbet turn as a delayed cbet for some reason. I feel if we bet flop and turn then we are committed and have to bluff river if called or call a jam on turn if he raises over us.

With the SPR pretty low I don’t see a lot of maneuverability. Our equity vs a K is like ~16% OTT

I don't think we are committed. Pot is $100ish we have $250 behind, if we make it $115 we still have $135 behind. If he shoves we have 8% nearly 100% of the time so can easily fold. If he calls he won't ever fold to a river as he has Kx+. With this hand in isolation it isn't ideal, but I'm thinking we can do the same with JJ/KK and some pair + NFD or combo draw type hands. That way if he does shove we call a bunch with nutted hands and call around the same with nutted combo draws and only fold our AQ/AT hands.

I think we have to call this turn bet in either case. It's a small bet $40 into $120 so you're getting 4 to 1 to call. You have 3 clean outs and 4 more outs to aces and the T that are good a decent amount of the time and 3 outs to Qs that are occasionally good. You also occasionally have the best hand.

With the A I would bluff river spades. Without the spade, I'd probably check/fold the river UI although potentially find a hero call if the board pairs.

As for the flop, I like the bet, although I might just bet $25 again instead of $35. You're targeting TT- with the bet so don't need to bet too much.

Idk about the preflop size vs 2 opponents, seems way too big in my game but if people are spazzy and calling with any Ax then sure, go for it.

I feel like these are some of the routine spots where people don't know what to do, you know your hand is good enough to raise pre, but when you whiff the flop oop you don't really know how to proceed.

I check this flop with AQ, along with 1010-77, KK, and QJs/K10s (maybe not in raise range vs all V's). AQ is the best c/r bluff hand you have by the way, but I'm not pulling the trigger on that one 100% of the time.

As played probably calling the turn, way too cheap, you have some outs to the nuts and can always just call on A rivers, you have some showdown value as well.

25 is too much pre with only two limpers, either you're going to end up varying your raise sizes with different hands or you're losing too much value with what ought to be a quite strong raising range.

Do you have any estimate of what V's limp/call range looks like here?

I would barrel turn. V's call looks weak on such a wet board. It's hard for him to face continuing pressure because we could plausibly have AA, AK, KK and JJ here.

Good call on betting $25 instead of $35, same outcome just a different SPR which would have allowed me to call his turn bet getting 4-1 with more stack left behind. I also like the reasoning in betting river with a spade in our hand although I wasn’t thinking of it in game.

My raises pre were 7.5x-12.5x ($25) in this game. We were OOP and had a strong hand going multiway, I don’t want a wacky SPR going post allowing V(s) to have room to call with their draws post flop.

AQ best hand I have as a c/r? I like the thought of that. Going to hit up flopzilla to see (not really good at calculating c/r spots just yet).

I do agree with you on calling A rivers for SDV though

These limpers haven’t shown they were trapping me so their range was definately weaker than mine (if no PPs)..I believe when a the flop comes, they whiff or are super uncomfortable with the thought of me continuing with a turn cbet after firing the flop with the SPR at hand. They have no reason to think I’m a one and done type (even though I kind of am and will work on this).

The V who called me showed down a JTo that he won in a limped pot previously. Also he showed a K this time.

How much would you raise turn? And if he calls are you giving up UI (he doesn’t have any real reason to fold imo due to stack sizes. Doubt he calls turn bet with a draw).