Hand at Red Rock:

Hero (~$450) in HJ: Mid-20's reg, other regs know I'm solid winner but have never seen V playing at Red Rock before. TAGish game, open pretty wide from LP and wider than most from EP

V (~$700) on button: He just sat down about an hour ago and has built his stack from 300 to 700 pretty quickly. Two key hands are when he raised pre with K7s, board came 7-high, and he bet flop then potted turn and river and got called twice by 97s that had picked up a FD on turn and bricked river. Second hand he raises to $12 on button after a few limpers, flop comes 7-7-8, checks to him and he bets $20, SB c/r to $40, folds back to V and he calls. Turn T, SB leads $60, V tank calls, river Q, SB goes all-in for $100ish, V calls relatively quickly. SB shows K9o and V shows 55.

3 of the last 4 times I raised pre, V has 3bet me in position, but table is full so I can't seat change.

Hero picks up AK and raises to $15 after one limper. CO calls, V raises to $45, hero 4b to $115, V 5b to $200. Hero?

i love villain lol, great action guy.
the clickback 5bet is such a great move, and i hate being oop against a player who actually has this move in him, i mean, how often do you experience this play in a live setup?
villain has shown to make huge calldowns and pretty thin valuebets, but not sick bluffy yet. i think the main question is how villain views hero, if he believes hero is capable of 4bet/folding ever...

it´s just an unusual situation imo. hero is probably used to exploit his opponents, but there it is, he finally met the one guy who probably is capable of exploiting a simple bet/fold strategy. against this guy, we can´t really 4bet/fold AK, which is generally a bad play but obv seems to have his benefits against a weak opposition on a live low stakes holdem table. he is not your usual weak opposition. if you decide to play AK, either flat his 3bet or 4bet/call. 4bet/folding seems really bad.

Grunch

Lol... gross. I think you made your bed here though. If he really luckboxxed the nutz here then good for him... If he really is 3betting that much I can't see folding here. Again, a really gross spot.

Push it all in and consider it a cooler if he shows AA or KK. There's only two hands he could have your less than a coin flip in and with a player like this, I'd kickflip.

this

and this ... good luck

Lol well it's time to go to war with AKo basd on opponent.

Pray this is QQ or some randomm button click with 87ss

LOL... looks to me like Villain is crushing the table. The 55 hand was awesome.

I guess we have to stack off now. This is not a cooler though. This is spew on the part of Hero.

I flat the 3B and take a flop HU against someone who will give you his money.

I'm mystified at all the posts where Hero gives up his skill advantage by trying to get AI preflop. I spend hours and hours honing my poker skillz... the last thing I want to do is get 200bb in on a coin flip.

Donk-a-ment, itt.

Oh, and this too.

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6 bet

and +2 to Lapidator

55 hand = proof poker is dead. Awesome by both. Actually LOL'd. Crazy awesome turn card for SB. Too many outs to hit.

Lapidator wins, but I say fold. Getting 225bb in with AK, even against this guy seems pretty bad.

4b in live settings is only for inducing shoves or bluffing. You apparently were bluffing because you got the action but now don't know what to do with it. Did you think he was going to flat?

If you are 4-betting AK here, that is to snap a shove. Otherwise just call the 3-bet.

Stop and Go

Yeah I actually like the 3bet call vs. 4bet "spew" as well because I don't like getting too deep preflop with AKos, against any opponent.

Results:

Sssssshhhhoooooooooove it!!! Already got a quarter of your stack in vs. a super Aggro. Plus you now learn he is capable if a 5bet light. I would hit up the next seat available with position on him.

This is a fistpump shove AINEC.

Pre-flop raise wars are an interesting situation in live 1/2 games. So many players in the player pool are so passive that they never do this without Aces or Kings and conversely these same players almost always think that people only do this with aces and kings that it should be more exploitable.

NH. Never seen a 5-bet fold live. Kudos on finding someone capable of doing it.

Once you 3 bet, I don't see any other play other than shoving if you get 4 bet. It's a plus he's so aggro so queens, and lower can be in his range. So I think folding would be bad. If he wasn't so aggresive it could be Aces. If he's got the rockets, so be it.

Okay, so what's the plan if you hit? or if you miss? BTW CO called the 15 so most likely would be 3 to the flop flatting the 3bet.

Lets say the flop came K65 what's the plan oop?

If flop was 553 what's the plan oop?

looks like the optimal line is to call the 3b and c/c almost any flop and turn, obviously this will change based on board texture and bet sizing, but really no reason to 4b unless its as a bluff.

tough to say without further reads, but gotta stick to the assumption that most opponents don't have it in them to barrel two or three streets in a 3b pot as a pure bluff, but this may just be the type of opponent who has it in them based on his history.

Actually, it is my experience that if CO is calling the 3B, then AK will dominate his holding and he'll have a very tough time with the pot.

Both, donk lead for 1/3-1/2 pot.

The first has a flush draw to protect against, but I don't feel the need to bet more than 1/3-1/2 pot in a 3B pot, usually.

The second has no draws to protect against, so I'm happy to continue smallish.

If Villain raises I may have to let this one go. Or I may go to war.

Probably I go to war with both.

How about you? What is your line?

BTW... Hero should be flatting this guy's 3B's pretty wide. Even OOP.

+1

Click back to 285, who knows, he may shove AQ or do something else stupid. We cannot credit him with anything and surely he is crafty enough to make bets that appear super strong ---yet are not.

No need in simply shoving as that will allow him to play his cards the best that he can,. Give him room to make a mistake since we are getting it in anyhow.