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1/2NL ~250bb Deep - Jammed on by V on River with K High Flush 1/2NL ~250bb Deep - Jammed on by V on River with K High Flush

04-20-2015 , 04:55 AM
Background:

The Game: 1-2NL ($300 Buy In Cap) - no other games are running at this time

Hero CO $490 - Hasn't done anything out of line. A couple of 3! squeezes PF while in position but those hands were never shown. Hero has always had good holdings if hands went to showdown.

Early in the session Hero did get stacked getting it all in on a board of

J34J

Hero had AJ
Villain had A9

So, there is a chance that some may just remember that Hero lost a large pot opposed to remembering how it occurred

Villain EP ~$2100 - Late-thirties white female that has been drinking and was obviously feeling the effects of the alcohol earlier but appears to have sobered up some by the time the hand in question occurs. I've seen her limp PF from EP with a WIDE range (any suited, Q9o, K8o, etc.). Based on table banter when I arrived, it appeared she had been very active with marginal holdings and hitting. I have been told by a room reg that she is typically very LAG and even more so when drinking

Within the first two orbits on the tables, I saw Villain 5b! / shove (shoved over $200 4b!) AI from the button against three other players in the hand (other players had stacks of ~$900 (turned out to be a pretty tight player that didn't get out of line), ~$250, and ~$400 left) with AKo. But I haven't seen her get out of line on the river other than the occasional river bluff (typically ~1/2 pot of less) when she missed.

I also saw her min-raise a river bet with the nut straight.

Onto the hand:

Hero dealt: K6

Villain Limps, two others call, Hero call, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks

Flop: J92

Villain bets $10, MP calls, Hero calls

Turn: 5

Villain bets $15, MP calls, Hero calls

River: 10

Villain bets $25, MP Calls, Hero Raises to $90, Villain takes some time, makes mention of how "ridiculous this is", asks how much Hero has behind and goes all in...

Speaking to a few people about this hand I've received mixed thoughts on this situation - should Hero call or fold here?

If you would call here, what is the bottom of your range you call with here?

Also, I rarely limp in but there were dynamics with a couple players (including ones not involved in the hand) at the table that I believe make that acceptable here however, I am open to discuss all aspects of the hand to include PF.

Thanks.

Last edited by DeadMoney_J; 04-20-2015 at 05:03 AM.
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04-20-2015 , 04:58 AM
Don't go broke in a limped pot without the nuts, especially 250bb deep. If V doesn't have a straight flush or ace high flush I would be surprised. V speech plus River 3b jam in small pot = nuts
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04-20-2015 , 05:01 AM
fold pre (in theory)
fold to river 3bet

Would be a sicker spot, if you had A2cc ..
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04-20-2015 , 07:32 AM
You have fourth nuts against a V who overplays her hand. I don't put her on Q8s or 87s too often. But Axs makes sense.
She fired flop, turn and river. So she has top pair, top two pair, set or flush draw. She may have rivered a straight but that makes less sense.
She's made a couple of small river bluffs and min raised the nuts for value.
I don't love raise folding but I guess that's the right play. I call here though. I don't draw to this hand against this player, then raise with it and fold. There are a lot of hands you beat and her past pattern suggests she would raise smaller for value w the nuts. She could be 'bluffing with two pair' or a small flush.
Do you have any read that she would bet the draw OTF and OTT?
I think if you're really afraid of Axs or a straight flush, flat the river bet. Thinking a move ahead, if you're raising the river for value, you have to have a plan for when she comes over the top. My plan, with this hand, would probably be Snap Call.
It's hard to put her on hands we beat other than small flushes, sets and two pair, so folding is probably right. I just don't think I lay this down to her.
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04-20-2015 , 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by proBono

Would be a sicker spot, if you had A2cc ..
No, if hero had AcXc, then hero is snapping this bet off.

Absent a soul read, I'm folding. Dusting off ~200 BB's with this hand is pretty bad.
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04-20-2015 , 12:27 PM
You can call if you think it would be cool to get stacked by a straight flush.

Easy fold. You obviously have a flush and she jams it huge - what do you think she has? Nut flush at least.
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04-20-2015 , 12:59 PM
Fold. Pretty easy. From your description, she's never doing with w/o the nuts or maybe second nuts.
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04-20-2015 , 01:25 PM
I agree with the thinking in this thread in regards to this being a fold. It was actually interesting to me that I received mixed feedback on this hand from players that are proven winners.

Thank you for the feedback all.
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