Thursday morning 1/2 drunk drooler table 5-handed

Stacks: BTN $200, SB $150, Limper $200, Hero $400

Reads: SB is a station, Limper is tight passive and Btn

UTG straddles 5, next guy limps, I make it 25 with AQo, BTN, SB, and Limper call.



Flop (100): A55dd
Checks around (I check because drunk whale BTN bets stuff like J2o here when checked to)

Turn (100): 9x
SB leads 25, Limper calls, I call, BTN calls

River (200): Jx
SB leads 50, Limper calls, I fold, BTN moves ALL-IN, SB calls, Limper calls

BTN shows J9o
SB shows A7o
Limper shows A2hh


Am I being results oriented here?

Seems like you definitely should have called the $50 otr and it's not close. Such a small bet. Once you call the 50, if btn still shoves and sb and limper both call the $150, then that's a tough spot given the price we'd be getting.

Uh, don't post results. Not sure why I need to remind a regular poster about this, but w/e.

Checking flop is an option, but 4 way + FD + hand strength definitely makes me lean toward betting ~ half pot.

AP calling turn is fine. River you probably should call that bet. If villain open shoved, sure that's a decision, but his line looks as much like a weak Ax as it does 5x. If you call & get shoved on by maniac BTN, probably call, & hero fold vs others.

Don't check this flop 4ways. And yeah, folding the $50 is pretty poor. Did you think his range was only 5x?

Just bet gii otf. You can even just shove and they're never gonna fold an Ace or FD. I can kinda see your logic with the flop check, but once it doesn't pan out, you must jam the turn.

^^ This! Betting the flop changes the entire hand. Your line easily looks like a mid to large pair pre flop when it checks around on the flop. HU, I think the check is fine, 4 way you have to bet. Then when the J hits on the turn the Ax hands are thinking chop at worst because the flop was checked. I'm guilty of this flop check too in some spots, but not on paired boards in 4 way pots where I raised pre and hit.

If you check this flop, then the SB leads $25 into a $100 pot and there's a FD on board, raise the weak ass turn bet.

Bomb flop, Jam turn, next hand. If you really think they are drunk droolers, I'm willing to stack off here against their short stacks with TPGK almost always, especially 5-handed.

I don’t know man, he bet TWICE into 3 players and there was the maniac BTN behind me whose range was ATC. But I think I should have paid attention to his sizings and the line everyone in the hand took up until the river to realize nobody should have 5x often enough here.

If SB bet and limper folded, I’d probably call. It was all so confusing.

Another mistake I think I made was to not l/rr and GII with the BTN who was raising 90% of the hands being dealt to him to absurd sizes like $25-40.

Yeah, I get too afraid to do that multiway thinking worse won’t call and 5x may be trapping.

Absolutely. Biggest mistake was to not bomb flop and target weaker Ax. I’m 100% sure SB would call it off with his A7o, he was so tilted.

?!?!?!? to the bolded. So you slowplay the flop in order to fold what is the best hand like 75%+ of the time OTR?? Oh boy....my head hurts.

Versus $150 effective, AQo is the nuts on this board on the river. Just do yourself a favor and bet the flop. If it is really a drink manaic type of game, they will call with much worse. Or at least raise the turn...again, they will call with much worse.

I will go so far as to say that as the PFR, if we NEVER check ANY flop, our total win over the long run will be much higher than when we do stuff like the above. You get soooo much loose action on this street when ahead (like here) that it will more than make up for all the times we bet a crappy board with air and either bet/fold the flop or end up having to check/fold the turn.

Definitely need to bet the flop, would have narrowed the field and most likely kept the rest from going all in after appearing to be strong on the flop. Also against 3 others, you need to get some value from your likely best hand.

AP, I definitely call the $50 and then you're priced into call the all-in from button.

Well, you came here to pay your penance: terrible play postflop. Get your money in there one way or another.

The effective stack is 200 here, and the way you checked the flop your hand is extremely underrepresented. As played I would probably call off The river.

However, I would more likely be betting this flop, and look to shove the turn.

We all do dumb stuff, but yeah looks pretty bad even to me. Id bet flop. And ap jam turn

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