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1/2 Weird Turn spot with a straight 1/2 Weird Turn spot with a straight

10-12-2013 , 08:54 AM
V1: 40's Asian male mainly irrelevant to this hand.

V2: 25-30 white male who just sat down 4 or 5 hands ago from a table breaking so no real reads. Straddled and double straddled within those first couple of hands and pushing others to straddle as well.

Playing 9 handed 1/2. Hero has effective stack with ~300

Straddle is on for $5 and 8 players limp in.
V1 on BTN, V2 in SB
Hero in BB calls with 56

Flop (~$40)
477
V2 check, hero check, checks all the way around to V1 who makes it $15
v2 calls, hero calls, everyone else folds.

Turn ($85)
3
V2 check
Hero leads for $35
V1 calls
V2 raises to $100
Hero? (roughly $250 behind)
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10-12-2013 , 10:35 AM
Tough spot. My initial thought was fold but now i've changed my mind to all in (i dont think i can flat here) thinking boat would maybe flat your bet. To me it seems he doesn't like those clubs and straights are harder to see.

I'd also probably fold flop as you really only have 6 clean outs + need to worry about boats. It is not gonna be easy to win this hand with those clubs and pair on board.
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10-12-2013 , 10:47 AM
I don't get how V1 is irrelevant. V1 bet the flop. And called a bet Ott. And now v2 is raising w 3 ppl in the pot Ott. V1 is very relevant and I would like more reads on him. Vs v2 range I gii. He has this gamble image and can make this raise w any 7x. However he may have u drawing dead at times but I'd be willing to accept this.
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10-12-2013 , 12:41 PM
I'm a nit and honestly probably folding the flop here. As played, without a read, it's a clear fold.
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10-13-2013 , 01:34 AM
I personally don't like drawing on pair boards. Had that bite me one too many times. I personally also fold this on the flop as well...

To me V1 has a flush draw here, and V2 obviously has something big, if your taking his rasie on the turn as "I have a made hand, pay me"...Taking a closer look it seems to me his range could be 7x, 33, 44, and maybe the same straight, there is only one of those hands you beat. With him raising both of you like this I would almost think he always has it. Figuring out what "it" is can be little hard. There are definitely a few 7's in his range...V2 line is pretty strange to me though, if he has a 7, I would think he'd raise this drawy board on the flop.

I'm still wanting to fold this desperately, so that's what I'm going to say I'd do...
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