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06-19-2013 , 03:13 PM
Hero- Early 20s white guy beard. Played snug for first hour but recently have been opening a lot of pots pre and taking them down otf or pre.

V1- Late 30s drinking miller lite typical parx degen. Has shown down two bluffs earlier in the session but has won some big pots with the nuts.

Effective stacks 450$

Our hand: AK

3 Limps to Hero in HJ Raise to 14$

Folded behind 2 callers in front.

Flop A76

V1: Leads for 15$

V2: Folds

Hero: Calls 15. Original thought was setting his own price and wanted to see where he was in the hand, didn't think he was capable of leading a set.

Turn 7

V1: Leads for 40$

Hero: Calls. Thought about a raise here to avoid huge river bet but decided to call.

River: 3

V1: Leads again for 60$

Hero?? Obviously call or fold here but any thoughts on his hand?

Last edited by dtrickE; 06-19-2013 at 03:24 PM.
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06-19-2013 , 03:22 PM
Stack sizes?

I'd be really tempted to min-raise the river.
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06-19-2013 , 03:25 PM
Really need to know stack sizes. The bigger the stacks, the cooler I am with passively calling down. The smaller the stacks, the more I'm for committing earlier.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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06-19-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chaotic29
Stack sizes?

I'd be really tempted to min-raise the river.
Stack sizes have been added. I wasn't too happy about his river sizing but min raising didn't really cross my mind due to only inviting better hands to call but I can see your logic as most aces that we beat would call but I don't see too many aces we beat betting 60$ otr.
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06-19-2013 , 03:29 PM
Why are you contemplating raising to avoid a river bet? If you raise the turn it needs to be for value because he will call with a worse A or with a diamond draw
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06-19-2013 , 03:29 PM
i think it´s worth a little value raise OTR, or maybe even a big one... maybe even shoving.
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06-19-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
Why are you contemplating raising to avoid a river bet? If you raise the turn it needs to be for value because he will call with a worse A or with a diamond draw
I typically wouldn't be considering it but had thought of the idea prior to hand watching his bet sizes on his bluffs. As I said I did call and agree that raising on the turn doesn't do much good for us unless they're flush draw bricks or weaker aces stick around.
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06-19-2013 , 03:35 PM
Knowing the stack sizes, passive me would just call down. I definitely don't want to get on my way to playing for 225bb with a hand as little (and obvious) as TP. Even though his flop and river bets weren't terrific for value, we still get 3 streets with TP if we're good (and I'm fairly happy with that considering I would have usually pot controlled anyways). Not sure I like opening things up again on the river against a guy who can bluff, and are stacks really such that we can raise/fold?

GmrpassiveG
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06-19-2013 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Knowing the stack sizes, passive me would just call down. I definitely don't want to get on my way to playing for 225bb with a hand as little (and obvious) as TP. Even though his flop and river bets weren't terrific for value, we still get 3 streets with TP if we're good (and I'm fairly happy with that considering I would have usually pot controlled anyways). Not sure I like opening things up again on the river against a guy who can bluff, and are stacks really such that we can raise/fold?

GmrpassiveG
Agreed I ended up calling after some thought as his line somewhat confused me but I had him on a 6 or a 7 the whole way but his turn bet seemed more like a 6 turned into a bluff. He showed 79. Appreciate the input gents.
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06-19-2013 , 04:20 PM
If he's not donking a set, why not raise flop? He's drawing pretty cheap and has at least some implieds against us since our hand is decent. He's also capable of bluffing, so i would be inclined to make him pay to draw. This is based on your read that he won't donk with a set. You're only losing to a couple Ax combos.

Prob couldve gone bigger pre too. With 450 effective and 45 in the pot the spr isn't favorable for your hand unless you can win w/o a showdown often. If he's donking with mp I'm guessing that's not often the case...
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