1/2: We float the flop and pick up a flush draw
Join Date: Aug 2019
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1/2, $225 effective
Preflop:
BU opens to $12
I flat in BB with ATdd
BU is an aggressive young Asian male grinder type. Seems to open >75% on the button. I’d be fine with 3betting this as well BB vs. BU (especially since he’s opening so much) but I think flatting is fine too. Thoughts?
Flop ($25): KdKs7s (about $210 behind)
I check, BU bets $12, I call.
He cbets flop ~100%, so I figure A high + BDFD is good enough to float flop for a half-pot bet, especially when it’s paired. Thoughts?
Turn ($49): KdKs7sJd (about $200 behind)
Action now that we’ve picked up the FD? Check/call, check/fold, check/raise, lead?
Join Date: Dec 2007
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How we play this depends so much on V's image of us. If neutral to LP, I'd be 3-betting pre often, for example.
When did float become a synonym for "call planning to eval?" I've always used it to mean "call planning to bluff the next street."
What is his likely image of you? If you are MAWG, my float line would usually be c/c flop, donk turn, aka the "LP with trips or better" line. If splashy, I'd check, planning to c/r most bets and being happy with free cardto my FD and a GS if he checks back.
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I’ve generally used “float” to mean calling the flop light, which is usually followed by bluffing the turn, but not necessarily. I’m sure you’re right though.
I’m a young white guy. There’s one relevant piece of history that this guy saw a few minutes earlier (but wasn’t involved in). I raise on the button to $12 with JTs, BB calls. Flop 888, checks to me, I bet $15, he raises to $75, I fold. The Asian guy (correctly) says “yeah he didn’t have ****.”
As played, on the turn I check and he bets pot ($50). Is this still a raise/jam?
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Yuck. Given that you apparently have a rather grindery image, maybe. If someone bet pot against me (MAWG) on that board OTT, I'd fold it.
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Preflop is a fistpump 3bet and it's not even close. Make it somewhere in the $40-$45 range.
Even if villain was a tighter player who only opened like 30% of hands on the BTN, you should still lean towards 3betting pre, although you could mix in some flats too.
As played, flop X/C is good and I'd be looking to X/jam the turn, although it's fine to just X/C the turn instead. I wouldn't donk this.
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$50 pre.
As played check and usually call.
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Against an opponent that cbets nearly 100% is a c/r on a paired flop not a viable strategy?
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All of my posts are grunch unless I don't even respond to the post, and just respond to someone else's comment.
Anyways, I 3 bet at 100% frequency pre. I go $60. I don't have charts or solver solutions in front of me, but I doubt pre is even close BB v BTN.
I like flop.
Turn I need more information. I can see check-call, and check-raise. I don't see lead at all. Check-fold has to be the worst option considering we have NFD, and a gutshot royal flush draw. Is villain a super thin value bettor (I doubt it)? Does villain only bet the river with Kx and bluffs (polarized)? If the former is true, I crai ott. If the latter is true, I call, and then x-c all rivers.
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I've got xc>donk 50 - 60% psb > xraise.
