A pretty fishy game this Saturday, I effortlessly brought home an additional $1300 in a few hours.

Villian in HJ ( $600 )
Hero on the Button( $1000 )

Villian is a young kid who is a recreational player, social, but very loose and he seems paranoid, he can station it up and has a hard time believing other players.

A few limpers, I score As/5s and I raise to 12. Everyone folds to villian, who looks like he's "meh" about his hand, and he calls.

Flop: Ad/7h/Qd ( pot: 20ish )

V checks, I bet 12, V calls.

Turn: 8h ( pot: 45 )

V bet's 12, I raise to 55. V tanks for 30 seconds, looking like he wants to fold, then calls.

River is an Ace of hearts ( pot: 165 ).

V checks, Your move.

Turning this hand into a bluff (especially against a fish)? How did you ever manage a 50 BI upswing? Kidding of course about that last part.

Betting that river is usually good against a fish. They will call with a lot worse.. When the ace pairs, they most likely think that there is less chance that you have one (ie. they think you definitely don't have one). They might even call with king high hoping to catch you bluffing... you said he has a hard time believing other players. So betting is good, although your reason to bet as a bluff isn't good.

As for bet sizing, considering the nature of the villain, I think you could've gotten more value. Although, if you genuinely think he wanted to fold on the turn, maybe your size on the river was good. But as I said, with the ace pairing, he may be happier about calling on the river than he was on the turn.

Probably going to value own yourself too often here. I loooovvvveeee thin value bets but it seems like he has very little to call with. He can only call with a Q and has some flush draws that got there. If he has a bigger ace he's not folding and you're just chopping or losing. If he's willing to call significantly lighter than a Q then Maybe you consider value betting this river. If he's willing to call with a busted flush draw and king high then def value bet as long as he won't aggressively check raise the river. As it is, seems like a bad value bet but I haven't read the spoiler.

Good knowledge of fish! He even said, "I believe the second ace makes it more likely you don't have it".

I hear this a lot, that you can really do large value bet's against fish who are at all stationy, and I'm finding it to be more and more true.

He also mentioned that he thought if I had the ace, that I would have gone all in. He saw me go all in with the nuts a few times against other players....

So I think the optimal bet against this type of fish is somewhere between what I bet but not as much as an all in.

First off, it is generally not advisable to bluff fish especially at $1/2 because they call bets so often and they sometimes do not understand relative hand strength. I just don't understand your logic here by betting V off a weaker ace since V will be calling anyways and that range is pretty narrow since you are only chopping with A2,A3,A4 and A6. The only reason I like the bet on the river is because this V will call you down lighter on the river than most opponents at this level. So you are basically making a thin value bet without realizing it since you can get value from Qx and other PP's. Against TAG's I would generally tend toward checking back this river because they are mostly not calling another bet and if they do you are beat 90% of the time.

You just decided to turn your hand into a bluff against a player who you said is a calling station I definitely do not understand this logic.......how does that work? Basically, you're value-owning yourself most of the time here with that line.

Grunch: I would like to effortlessly congratulate you on somehow squeezing no less than 4 separate brags into this post.

Your description is rife with contradictions however.

That is some heinous rake right there.

Definitely ship river. If villain had an ace or a flush he'd probably bet into you hoping it doesnt get checked behind. His check reps extreme weakness, but we know he must have at least something to have called us down, so we know we can bet for value somewhere in here. I like shoving because fish will often call you out of spite. Something like "how dare you raise so much, I call because **** you!" Or they just think you're bluffing because nobody would ever bet that much with the nuts. Remember fish always love to gaybet and minraise and stupid **** when they have the nuts, so when you come over the top they recognize it as completely the opposite. If he had quads he'd probably bet $12 into $100 again.

edit: ok I didnt realize how deep you were so shipping is not an option, but only because I dont think he'll pay it off with a queen. Instead bet like $200.

Ill be the devils advocate and say that this was played well for value.

To add to Villain's flaw's is his passivity.

This is evident in the Villain's bet on the turn, which seems to me to be a late blocker bet.

Villain was trying to take control of the betting on the turn and hope you just call to get a cheap showdown or river card.

This is a poor play seeing that Villain didn't take control of the betting on the flop and instead checked. (But it would be interesting how this would have played out if he did bet the flop...)

So your re-raise on the turn was an great move for value and I think this street is where you must extract as much value from a "Station" Villain.

*After reading the results I'm very surprised he called. I assume he was on a weak made hand/draw because of his insta-muck at the end and with Villain first to go and the river bricking, I didn't see him putting anymore money into the pot.

You're surprised a 1/4 pot donkbetting fish lost at showdown on a board paired with aces? Cmon, this is exactly what we expect of fish. I wouldnt be surprised if this dumb mother ****er had a pair of 7's the whole way through.

My opinion is that you are WA/WB here. You either have the best hand or you're dead in the water. Unless you are 100% sure he doesn't got an Ace like you have. In those situation of WA/WB the best play is to check it out to see who wins.

Your "value" river bet of $100 is not so great because you open yourself to a bluff. What would you have done if the dude moved all-in on the river? - I'm telling you what.., you wold put him on a better Ace and have folded unless you are that "fish" in the first place.- Trips are the worse hands to lose your stack with. This is for sure when you play "one card hand"

You make your money by winning just a few big pots with big flopped hands. (trips are not those hands). This approach means that you rarely bluff—and you do not bluff in big pots. You might not accept this approach right away because you may be used to playing a lot of pots and constantly working to out-think and outdo your opponents. However, winning a few big pots with big hands is all you need to make a lot of money. It is the basic tenet and the foundation upon which your future success in cash games will be built.