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1/2 - two pair vs. older regular 1/2 - two pair vs. older regular

07-06-2019 , 11:20 PM
Villain is an older, solid regular. Plays a tight raising range but looser limping range. I've also seen him over value some top one pair hands (w good kickers). Has really only shown down winners. He is the only stack that covers mine and I sit at 600.

Villain on the cutoff

Otth

4 limpers and I have Ah5o on the button - I limp.

Blinds complete

Flop ($14). As5d8d checks to villain leads $5 I raise to $15 SB flats and villain flats

Turn ($59) 3c: checks to me I bet $35 SB folds villain raises to $145

Hero: ??

Last edited by SpinzFTW; 07-06-2019 at 11:33 PM.
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07-06-2019 , 11:24 PM
Limping pre is weak to me but can't be horrible. All options are kind of ugly but I'd rather raise and collect the dead money some % of the time and play with initiative than limp. As played snap fold.
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07-06-2019 , 11:38 PM
Editted as I had flop suits incorrect.
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07-07-2019 , 11:19 AM
I'm reminded of the old adage: don't go broke in a limped pot. (Especially not 300BB deep.) The overbet looks like he's trying to fold out a comboish draw because he has a hand that's so strong (set, straight with 2d 4d??) he won't be able to fold it if "your flush" comes in (like some Adxd hand). But you don't actually have much of a chance to improve: paint, a diamond, a 3 or an 8 or a 9, and then you kind of can't call a shove, and you kind of can't extract value even on a blank. Somehow he's managed to run smack dab into top and bottom pair... but he has to have considered two paid holdings since you raised flop, and yet he's not afraid of that. He's not afraid of 88, but maybe he shouldn't be if you'd never limp your button with that or raise middle set on the flop.

You said he's solid so... I think, you gotta let it go. Otherwise, I humbly predict you call, river goes check-check, and he sheepishly rolls over pocket fives.
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07-07-2019 , 04:02 PM
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You said he's solid so... I think, you gotta let it go. Otherwise, I humbly predict you call, river goes check-check, and he sheepishly rolls over pocket fives. [/QUOTE]

Or A-8
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07-07-2019 , 11:54 PM
I called his turn raise, river brings offsuit 7 and he lead $200. I folded. He later tells me he had 24o.

Also, A8 wouldn't lead only 1/3rd pot on the flop, and then check raise turn.
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07-08-2019 , 12:33 AM
Fold preflop.
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07-08-2019 , 12:48 AM
Raising pre would be a substantial mistake. Limping or folding are both fine. I think we should let it go, this hand isn't strong enough to go broke with in a limped in pot 300 bb deep.
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07-08-2019 , 01:43 AM
With so many advocating the turn fold, I actually think this is a clear call spot, esp. vs a villain who overvalues his top pair hand.

We can discount 88, AA from pre and A8o from flop.
We are beat by 42dd, 42ss, 88, 55, A8 = less than 12 combos since some A8 will 3b flop and some 88 will raise pre. We need to find 6c of hands that we beat that got to the turn. that is now raising.

64dd, 74dd, 43dd, 32dd, A3dd, 76dd
He could be overvaluing tp+fd here as well.
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07-08-2019 , 02:29 AM
I think theoretically this should be a call. A3, AKdd,-ATdd, a lot of combos of StraightDrawFlushDraws and pair+FDs are all hands we beat or are slight favorite versus with 1 card to come. I see the guy said he had 24off this time but i believe that he could’ve played a lot of other hands this way
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